The love has gone. B&O TVs no longer value for money second hand...

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Chris Townsend wrote:

Essentially our flat screen tvs are going to end up bigger than our grand parents sets. I posted the advert as I see B&Os unique position of providing  cosmetically appealing sets with superior sound, being eroded.

Chris, I didn't think your post was off-topic, mine was. 

Schuifschoen wrote:

I think you can see clearly a benefit from 65 inch. Remember that $K is not only a higher resolution, but also, much better colours and higher framerates. I read several revieuws that good 4K almost looks like 3D.

Hmm - yes...But I have read several rewiews, saying that the new OLED screens in 'only' ordinary Full HD looks better than the 4K LED.
The same way as plasma has always had better colours and black-level etc...LCD/LED is not the perfect technology -and it won't be just because it gets higher resolution...

So If I was to buy a new tv today, I would definitely go for a OLED instead of a 4K LCD/LED.  
I have no room for a 80" or bigger tv anyway, so I don't care that much about the resolution. And now they're talking 8K already...Oh my...

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Schuifschoen wrote:

I think you can see clearly a benefit from 65 inch. Remember that $K is not only a higher resolution, but also, much better colours and higher framerates. I read several revieuws that good 4K almost looks like 3D.

The full specification of UHDTV (as it is so far) calls for a broader colour range and higher frame rates - I'm not sure how many of todays 4K TV's support either. If you intend purchasing one I suggest you dig in and ask the question of the manufacturer (I doubt the retailers will have a clue).

I suspect many will only have 4K resolution displays without the increased colour range or ability for higher frame rates, meaning they neither meet the spec as it's understood today nor will be in anyway "futureproof" as the 4K system matures.

Maybe they should be called "4K ready" in the same way that many sets were purported to be "HD ready".😮

Steffen wrote:
. And now they're talking 8K already...Oh my...

Hi Steffen,

the Youtube video i linked to above is from 2011!

But don't expect 8K to be arrive soon.

First priority will be to sell the 4K's - and then, after a couple of years the 8K's will be praised as the new 'must have' for the consumers.

 

It’s all about the money
It’s all about the dum dum duh dee dum dum

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Millemissen wrote:

It’s all about the money
It’s all about the dum dum duh dee dum dum

 

MM

😁

 

I had forgotten that song! 

 

But you are right, it's all about the money. That's why I'm "waiting" for 128K. Because it will happen. It's silly, but the consumer is ultimately pretty silly.

Regarding OLED, I saw a curved one yesterday. It was cool. Price was pretty high at 8000 euro for a 55". I don't know if it even had speakers, probably did but it must sound like a tuna can.

However the OLED TV (Samsung) was playing some sort of demo loop. IMHO the colors where the most unnatural I've ever seen on a TV, way too strong. The contrast was over the top, it all just looked like a color cartoon with too strong ink! I watched the TV for 5 minutes, and felt dizzy. If this is OLED, not thank you!

 

 

bayerische wrote:
However the OLED TV (Samsung) was playing some sort of demo loop. IMHO the colors where the most unnatural I've ever seen on a TV, way too strong. The contrast was over the top, it all just looked like a color cartoon with too strong ink! I watched the TV for 5 minutes, and felt dizzy. If this is OLED, not thank you!

 

What you observed is highly dependent on where it was on demo, and the input settings.

 

This review illustrates what a Samsung OLED is capable of achieving.

Shame it's a samsung , I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole

I know they make the screens for bno but the guts , the things that differentiate the gear are very much bno , samsung's qc is laughable in comparison , believe me I know.

I had a samsung for 2 days , unreliable , badly made over complicated garbage.

I'll stick with the tried and tested led/lcd for the time being thx

bayerische wrote:

However the OLED TV (Samsung) was playing some sort of demo loop. IMHO the colors where the most unnatural I've ever seen on a TV, way too strong. The contrast was over the top, it all just looked like a color cartoon with too strong ink! I watched the TV for 5 minutes, and felt dizzy. If this is OLED, not thank you!

Never judge by the factory settings - you will always get a better result by finetuning the settings yourself.

Most tv sets even have a certain "Shop-demo" mode, where the picture have more contrast and colour - just to impress  the customers...

-and if you find a store that still has Plasma tv's, you'll see that the picture often is darker -simply because it is set into "eco-mode" to save energy.
Maybe that's why the plasmas didn't sell well - because they often stood beside LCD/LED's with way too much brightness/contrast/colour.
The sad thing is that many people keep those settings when they get it home...
I have seen really terrible picture quality at many of my friends Tv's... - orange skin color etc.
Some of them allowed me to adjust the picture-settings - and they admitted that it became much better than the factory settings.

I guess B&O is the only Company that sell Tv's with decent factory settings ;-) 

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The interesting point I'd like to make is that the OP wants to buy a new TV, despite the fact that he's very happy with the one he has..

This mentality is the thing that is driving the 'need' for OLED, 4K, 128K, smart TVs etc. It's madness!  What are you really missing out on? The differences are so marginal, that most people are just kidding themselves with new technologies. Either that, or they feel they're missing out on something because it's new.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Steffen wrote:

I guess B&O is the only Company that sell Tv's with decent factory settings ;-) 

Agree! 

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