Pretty off topic for a thread about the technical sound guide. Everyone has their opinion and this is a remake model as a tribute to the older classic designs and I believe the 4002 was picked for more space internally and easier to work on. Nonetheless sorry to hear you are so disappointed with the device but of course you also do not need to buy it. There is plenty of old devices out there and repairs can be made. I’m impressed there is a technical sound guide for this unique player but also never believe I will hear it as it’s not really for me. I do however like the colors of the updated edition, it feels fresh IM-H-O.Beogram 4000c is not based on Beogram 4000. Period! And under the Sound tab; "Frequency range : 50, 60 Hz" - Eh? The tapped wooden cabinet is a shame. It looks like an apple crate. And of course it's also a shame that they had to paint the arms black because Soundsmith can't make the lovely metal housed cartridges, only the black plastic-look ones. The nicotine colored metal panels is also a set-back. The alu panels were so beautiful and classic. Now it has all been given the color of the 1960s and 70s that I have spent hours on end trying to remove from smokers units. Yikes. To me it looks dirty and sticky. I can almost smell it. One can only hope that the new electronics, RIAA etc. was made to compensate as much as possible for the harsh, sterile and lifeless sound of the Soundsmith cartridges. Else a nice deck. Martin
Technical Sound Guide for Beogram 4000c is now online...
And under the Sound tab;
"Frequency range : 50, 60 Hz"
- Eh?Martin
Who is responsable for that there, I don’t know.
However, if you read the specs, that Geoff Martin includes in the ‘Guide’, you can see what is meant.
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
how did you re-arrange the page order to make the printing to A3 format happy?
Good morning Geoff,
When it's A4 (to print on A3) or A5 (to print on A4) and need no bleed, I use the "print booklet" feature in the print dialogue box from Adobe Acrobat.
You only need to take care you have the right page count to keep the facing pages right.
When it is a special format (square, or smaller than A4 because it need bleeding…) I have to do it manually.
In the case of this TSG, I had to do it manually to have a full picture cover which implies to shrink the size a little bit to avoid white margins. And if you only reduce the print scale, it will center the page in the half sheet resulting in too wide inside margins.
Hope I am clear.
Location: Paris France
Thanks Matador43,
That's very clear. But it means that I'll keep doing it manually....
The reason is that I'm typically binding books with multiple signatures - and I like keeping track of how many sheets are in each so that I don't have one weird little one at the end.
Cheers
-geoff
If you have questions about or problems with B&O equipment, these should be directed through your dealer and/or B&O's Customer Service department.
I cannot be a "short circuit", bypassing these communication channels.
Thanks
-geoff
Having the right page count is easy (always multiple of 4), but having the right facing pages, or guessing when they are unfolding pages (like in Service Manuals) or when there is a blank page in the original publication (often missing in the pdf), that is more "funny".
I had quite hard times when reprinting the BG4002 Design Story bcause of single sided pages!
I ended printing it recto verso after altering the page number position! (Thank you for sharing it by the way.)
Location: Paris France
Whilst I understand the confusion over calling a re-manufactured 4002 a '4000', one important thing to consider is that the 4002 has room inside for the new RIAA PCB. As I remember from my last time with a 4000, you'd struggle to squeeze a matchbox inside, let alone a PCB, so they couldn't have used one for the conversion.
Regardless of the reasoning behind them, I love the styling and the colour combinations. Just wasn't so much a fan of the price - not that it matters now anyway!
I love the new outer box, too - are there any spares left over, Geoff? I don't mind a slightly tatty prototype! 😕
Whilst I understand the confusion over calling a re-manufactured 4002 a '4000'...
The nomenclature issue is an interesting one that results in discussions that are fun to watch from the other side of the cafeteria.
I occasionally see people at the lunch table waving their hands, drawing rectangles and triangles in the air when explaining which Beosound 1 they use at home.
There's not much confusion over which Beosound 2 you mean - since no one thinks that you mean the little MP3 player any more.
At home, I use both a Beogram 42 and a Beogram 3000 - the 1980s tangential tracking Beogram 3000, not the 1970s Beogram 3000 - or the even earlier 1960s (Thorens) Beogram 3000 or the other 1960s Beogram 3000 with the motor from Acoustical.
I also have a broken Beolit 600 that I might get up and running again some day - it's a 1960s Beolit 600 - not a 1970s Beolit 600. For now, that one just fills in occasionally as a backdrop when I take photos of fountain pens.
Cheers
-g
If you have questions about or problems with B&O equipment, these should be directed through your dealer and/or B&O's Customer Service department.
I cannot be a "short circuit", bypassing these communication channels.
Thanks
-geoff
Was at a dinner tonight with dear friends of mine, whom I helped many years ago to find a nicer vinyl player. I said they need to get a B&O and they wanted a subtle discrete one. I chose the 3000 and they love it still. We even listened to it today and I remarked that there now is a new 4000 but I really like that one they have for it’s discrete design and more or less same technology inside. So it’s super fun to hear you use that one as well, I’ll let them know that tomorrow 🙂.At home, I use both a Beogram 42 and a Beogram 3000 - the 1980s tangential tracking Beogram 3000, not the 1970s Beogram 3000 - or the even earlier 1960s (Thorens) Beogram 3000 or the other 1960s Beogram 3000 with the motor from Acoustical.
There's not much confusion over which Beosound 2 you mean - since no one thinks that you mean the little MP3 player any more.
Amusingly, we have a Beosound 1 in the kitchen but I have a Beosound 2 in the cupboard under the stairs and it is the little MP3 player! It was a very generous present from Mrs. S years ago but really isn't my sort of thing, so it has never been out of its box and I have no idea what to do with it now...
Did anyone here (apart from you Geoff :)) actually listen to it IRL? It's hard to even find a review...
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