Steffen wrote:

To me it seems like a lot of you guys in this thread has already "converted" to the big Apple. You're talking about what you can do with your iPhone, iPad, iPod, Apple-tv, Airplay, etc.. -or Sonos -or whatever. And why You wil not buy B&O anymore (except, perhaps, from speakers and maybe a TV).

Well -we're some people who don't have an iPhone (I'm doing fine with my HTC smartphone), and are doing fine with a PC instead of a Mac -and don't have to listen to music anytime, anywhere. (Have you tried to enjoy the silence now and then 😕 )
And guess what...I can live with the possibilities that B&O offers in the home. I do not need to  play music from my smartphone on my Audio-system at home (although I can do it) ...I see no problem in playing a CD now and then, instead of spending hours on ripping all of my collection to a computer/server/mediacenter. And yes -I do listen to Net-radio now and then -and I download music. I just don't want to throw away all of my CD's -like I don't want to throw away my books just because we have e-books. But -that's just me...Call me old-fashioned.

It's fine that you love all your Apple-gear and that you have made your own wireless home solution with that. But -what do you expect B&O to come up with then???
Seems like whatever product B&O will come up with from now on, Your response will be: "I can do that with my Apple/"i-whatever" already...Why should I buy this?"

Sorry -but I am not a "tech-nerd". What the f... is "PUC"? And "connecting ZP90 via Spdif" is jibberish to me. Maybe B&O just appeals to us who are not tech-nerds and just want a A/V system that  is easy to set up.

And @bayerische who started it all: Watch out!!! First your wife want to get rid of the CD's -the next thing is, that she want to get rid of your speakers in favor of some small ones, that you can hardly see (or hear). 😂

Thanks for the two thoughtful posts gentlemen. I absolutely agree. I don't come around here nearly as often as I used to and find that the hive-mind of beoworld has departed so far from reality that it doesn't make sense to seriously participate. Fortunately I've never met a customer that's mentioned BeoWorld. Our press over the past few years has been almost universally positive. 

Agree with Steffen and Mr 10Percent! 

I own a lot of B&O products and  NO APPLE PRODUCTS. The day when Apple will buy B&O I.ll stop buying any B&O products.

Please stop comparing them............

@TripEnglish, @Steffen, @Mr10Percent, @Razlaw and 11048437 thank you!

F*** the Apple

Sit venia verbo. 😳

May I ask a stupid "musical feature" question : is the Beosound 5 now able to play songs gapless ??? Because that is a huge flaw that really put me out of buying this. 

Steffen wrote:

And @bayerische who started it all: Watch out!!! First your wife want to get rid of the CD's -the next thing is, that she want to get rid of your speakers in favor of some small ones, that you can hardly see (or hear). 😂

Haha! 

She would actually like the BL8000's instead of the BL5's!

All I can say, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! 😂😂😂

mbee wrote:

May I ask a stupid "musical feature" question : is the Beosound 5 now able to play songs gapless ??? Because that is a huge flaw that really put me out of buying this. 

It always has been.  You just need to use a format that supports gapless properly (i.e. as part of the standard) and not as some proprietary hack after the fact (like iTunes).

I think the only one of these the Beosound 5 supports is WMA lossless.

I'm convinced this thread isn't about comparing B&O to Apple...

Who would like to see Apple buying B&O? Not me. Apple would never buy B&O. What the heck would they want to buy B&O for?

How I see it, digital music is a revolution in how we listen to music. Who made this revolution? Well, firstly I would say the inventors of MP3, then the makers of portable digital music players. (Not Sony Discmans 😂)

When I refer to "digital music" I don't mean CD's, but the type we store/download on a computer. Sure there's some Apple "haters", but why? What's wrong with Apple? 

I'm positive that I would love the BS5 if I was to get it, but right now, it doesn't really make sense to push on with getting one... My significant other doesn't like to look of the BS5 (as I said, hard to understand why, but women are complicated). She's also an apple user, and familiar with iTunes etc... so in our case, getting a Mac mini to play our music, is easy, as she's ready to go at it right away. Eva, my wife, is not really keen on learning new technical stuff, and even if the BS5 is easy to use, it would take a long time for her to start using it, and a lot of phone calls to me, when I'm not around about "how the heck did I put on/change the radio channels on this thing?! And where's my Madonna music!!!???".

😂

You see my dilemma? 😁

I've had a mac mini as a music server/player before, why did I skip it? Because I couldn't get around the thought of there being something wrong with feeding 18.000 euro loudspeakers from a 599 euro computer. Call me snobbish. 

I love Apple, and that love isn't going anywhere, just as I love B&O. I have a bunch of Apple stuff, and love to use them. You who own an iPad can really see the potential in it as a remote for you music library can't you? I mean the iPhone is also good at it, but the screen is small, and not so great when you are scrolling through your music, and you get a call. This isn't going to happen with the iPad.

I won't trow away my CD's, and I will continue to buy CD's, more than I buy songs from iTunes. The music I've bought from iTunes has been so only because I couldn't find it on CD. But with a CD collection of many hundreds, it's pretty difficult sometimes to find what I'm looking for. Organizing them would be a good idea, but that wouldn't probably last long. The BS9000 will be saved, and have it's centerpiece place in our livingroom. 

Just as a side note, wouldn't we be utterly narrow sighted if we could only see B&O, today there's a flora of network music playing out there, why not combine the best of both worlds, when it is possible?

Totally agree with the "apple"posts above. Apple is overrated, it's not user-friendly at all. Never thought iTunes was userfriendly. B&o is in a different league; if some people here like it or not, the name B&o belongs in the top of the market, like Cartier, Aston Martin, to name a few. In fact it has no direct competitors. B&o never has been at the forefront of new techniques, but always has implemented new techniques once they've come up to B&o standards.

Selling points of B&o are:

1. Very good and natural sound/vision

2. Very userfriedly, easy setup, fool-proof

3. Timeless caracteristic design at very high standards (nothing less than museal quality)

4. Build quality second to none

5. Playing in the top league of consumermarket, so a certain amount of snob-appeal comes with it. (and attracts customers if you like it or not)