ajames wrote:

I like streaming via Apple TV into my B&O system most days of the week - it works all round the flat and no drop outs. But it is great having the option of playing Vinyl on a Friday night after underwinding from work with a glass of wine.

It's a bit like food - sometimes you just want a hamburger or kebab, but at other times you want to spend time cooking a gourmet meal and enjoy the whole experience of cooking and eating.

StUrrock wrote:

Beautifully put sums it up perfectly 🙂

agree with that!

Apart from: 

easily being able to choose, what I want to hear from my own (NAS) collection or from WiMP HiFi controlled by my iPad is 'cooking a gourmet meal' to me.

MM

I believe a lot of the popularity of vinyl, and even musicassettes and reel to reel, can be explained as alternatives sought by people who work with their computers, and who want to relax with something else.

Streaming is very useful - yesterday I listened to a live transmission of the opening concert of the big city symphony, brought to me via the internet and through my analog set-up. Very easy to control. But when I want to turn my listening into a happening, I use vinyl or reel to reel, as per the gourmet parable above.

My CDs have been in boxes for a long time. But after installing solar panels and a wind generator at my mountain cabin, I realized it would also be a great place to enjoy those CDs. Got a BeoSound 3000 and BeoLab 4000s for the cabin, for some reason people are selling these for nothing these days, probably not having understood that BeoLab 4000s are perfect speakers for playback from their computers. Up at the cabin, I am now spinning CDs and getting wonderful sound. I can stream to the BeoSound through a Dab radio I have connected to AUX. The Dab radio accepts Bluetooth streaming - which means that I can play Spotify, or whatever else I find on my computer or iPhone. But find myself preferring playing the CDs up there.

Listening to Melvyn Bragg's programs up at the cabin, streamed from the Podcast app on the iPhone, is glorious bliss, of course.

(The person who sold me his BeoLab 4000s for a song told me he was selling them because he wanted speakers he could stream to directly. Was it wrong of me not to point out that he could do that with ease to his BL4000s? 🙂 )

soundproof wrote:

(The person who sold me his BeoLab 4000s for a song told me he was selling them because he wanted speakers he could stream to directly. Was it wrong of me not to point out that he could do that with ease to his BL4000s? 🙂 )

Stein,

The classic ethical dilemma.  I was nearly presented with a similar one recently when a boxed Beogram 1202 was advertised for sale locally for £25.  I was too late - it had been sold by the time I contacted the elderly seller - but I may well have been troubled if I had not offered more for it - or at least pointed out that the box is probably worth £25 on its own!  Thankfully, I didn't have to make the decision. 

Cleve   

Søren Mexico wrote:

When I turn on my computer it tells me that my computer is in danger and click here and there, I do that as obedient owner, it then tells me that I need an update, I check the date, it is always the same, before or after the update, It then tells me, to install the update, close all windows before installing, I close the windows and to be sure, also the doors, and tell my wife to stay put. After a time the computer tells me, installation complete, click Finish, never Danish. I click finish, it then tells me that the new update has saved me from 319 virus attacks, 14 Trojan Horses, some sneaky worms, other insect and animals. I go wash my hands, while thinking about how to feed the horses, if they get into my computer (I like horses), I also think about if one day some update will save me from the BeoVirus.

Seems like you need a anti-virus programme for your computer - however, I don't think anyone has found a cure for the Beovirus 😂

valve1 wrote:

I  enjoy the whole process of selecting a cd and the visual impact of these systems in a room (and the listening bit) 

I have not had the occasion or need to even try streaming.

For me it is not 'either/or' but 'both/and'.

I fully agree with you, when it comes to the visual impact of those systems in a room. That's why I have ended up with a complete Beosystem in (almost) every room in the house - instead of having a link system. I even have a (non-functional Beomaster 1900 in the living room -as a 'piece of art)
And then I have a small Collection of vintage B&O on the first floor - but that's another story...(and another thread) 😂

Like you I enjoy the process of selecting a CD or a record,  and put it on/in the Beogram/Beogram CD -or Beocenter/Beosound.

But often I choose the 'easy way' of modern streaming.
I have a WD TV Live box connected to my TV and my "main audio system" - a BeoSystem 9500 with Beolab 5000's. This way I can stream music from my phone and tablet. I often use this solution for parties - then I mostly use Spotify. I have some playlists with mixed music for dinner, for dance - or whatever. And guests can use the tablet if they want to hear something else. And sometimes we put on a CD or a vinyl record, if Spotify doesn't offer the particular track.

In the other rooms, I don't have any boxes for Wireless. But I have a DIN-to-MiniJack cable plugged into the AUX socket in every audio-system.
Mostly I only listen to FM radio, when in the dining-room, bedroom or home-office. Otherwise I just bring along a CD (or even sometimes a tape).
- or I'll take my phone or tablet - plug the MiniJack into it, and listen to Spotify or Netradio through the audio system.

I have  never understood those people who sold all their vinyls when the CD came out. And then later scrapped all their CD's (and most of the 'hardware') -for streaming only. 
Anyway - I have some music on vinyl and CD, that can not be found on Spotify or iTunes - or anywhere else on the net. (If -then maybe only in some crappy home-recorded version on YouTube - or on some obscure sites...).

Well that was my point of view. I think I use the best of both Worlds 😂

To me it is pretty simple. 

I push one button on the Beolink 1000 and the white Beosystem 6500 1991 will play music. Now if I want something else I can find it and put it in. It does not matter if is a cassette, cd or a record. Even on the Beocord 5500/6500 I can locate the tracks by pushing 1 button on the Beolink 1000.

With the white Beosystem 6000 1981 it is just as simple. One button from the remote tablet or push directly on either source you would like of cassette, record or radio. I got a CDX added so it is a 2 step function for play back. Get the CD going and select tape 2. 

I do use old passive Beovox but it might be some day that I will get active for the 6500 again and Beovision AV9000. It will depend on the living conditions later in my life.

Both of my Beosystems are working great thanks to Dillen and I don't mind not going to streaming as it sounds great as I got it. Why change as I love the design of both and besides who would care for either system anymore? Yes the 6500 is classy but the 6000 does give it a good run in sound production. That 6000 had 3 dead main units in an auction late 2007. Dillen had 2 of them fixed pretty soon after and they are now all 3 going. Who would have thought the system ended up working and complete again?

The last few days I have had the Beogram 6006 with a mmc20cl pickup playing Down to earth in clear vinyl with Rainbow and Graham Bonnet pretty loud. ROCKS! I can tell you!

If we're talking about comfort, modern music devices are hard to beat. Remote controls and huge music databases are so handy and convenient.

But IMHO, unless it's uncompressed music (16 or 24 bits, 44.1/48/96 Khz) it's not hi-fi. It's just a background sound, that works well in the car or in the workspace. Hi-fi needs dynamic and full frequency range, and if the source is crappy, even if you connect it to the best sound system in the world, the sound remains crappy.

My ears are good enough to tell the difference: I'm not a purist, though, and I listen to my iPad and my laptop quite often. But I know the difference, and I hear it.

Guess I'm ready for the Grumpy Club 🙂

Friedmett wrote:

The last few days I have had the Beogram 6006 with a mmc20cl pickup playing Down to earth in clear vinyl with Rainbow and Graham Bonnet pretty loud. ROCKS! I can tell you!

That's a great album 🤒

- and I agree with you on most of the other things you mention. I really can't see why some people try to make it a big issue to find a CD and put it in the player (or put a record on the turntable).
Sometimes it is nice to listen to an entire album with one artist - instead of randomly jumping between artists/tracks... (but try to tell that to the youngsters today...) 😂