Chris wrote:

Will it be upgrading the Beolab 5 with new drivers?

Thanks! - Really great...:))

...what we are all dreaming of....😳

Stefan

9 LEE wrote:

Razlaw wrote:

I will believe it when I see it also.

It's true.

Lee

 

I`m quite sure that Lee and Peter could tell us a bit more about this new Beolab, but I´m also quite sure that they have promised not to do so...😮

My BL5 are twelve years old now (first edition) and I feel they sound better than ever - the only problem is, I get used to them in daily life...

But I don`t need any other speakers in my main room ............ for now!

Stefan

Paul W wrote:

Hey David why do you think that "Using a television set as an audio hub again is one of the weirdest solutions imaginable"?

Because I have to switch it on for listening to music or at least make my choice of what to listen too.

Don't forget the youngsters of today are used to their entire life being on laptops, iPads and iPhones.

I don’t.

12 years whilst I was at university the kids were using their desktops for playing music. Apple TV displays beautiful cover art of your music on your TV. My MacBook is my iTunes digital hub but look at my 20 minutes of music listening this afternoon before my gym training - I had France's NRJ Funky 80s radio station playing on my iPhone whilst showering, then I went downstairs and Airplay that to my TV, sat down with an espresso, opened my Facebook app and Airplay a HD surfing video onto the big screen before running upstairs again with NRJ then air playing to my B&O A8 in my weights room! The music then followed with me as I ran a 20minute journey to the gym!

And that's how I typically along with many other people live my life with music all around me :) And, I love it!!!

I have no problem with your listening preferences. But the moment you’d generalize them and propose the result as the only option, I might have. Again, switching on a perhaps even giant TV set only for looking at album art is like using whatever BeoLab for playing the system sounds of your laptop. You could also take a taxi to visit your friend living right around the corner or take a plane for your grocery shopping. Well, I do love technology but I prefer to enslave it to my needs – not the other way around, even if Apple, B&O, Google or whatever company thinks it would be great like this.

Chris Townsend wrote:

My tv has a built in Beosystem 3 in it. Why would I want to purchase another av receiver for my speakers......which are attached to my tv?

That’s your perfect freedom of choice, I’d never criticize it.

My tv has a built in cd/dvd player, why would I want to buy another separate one ?

That depends entirely on your personal needs.

My tv has a very good Beolab 7-6 on it, why would I want another speaker when this one can do most things on its own?

I do not know as I’m not using your setup.

A near smart hub, and hey it's also a TV🤒

Well, yes, it’s an option and if it's a good one for you – why the heck not? But in my case everything is just different, so I’d never want to use a solution like yours and we both have certainly enough reasons not to change our configuration. The problem I wanted to emphasize is that B&O is consequently diluting its very own technologies by e. g. offering a still revolutionary purely digital speaker but no solution to integrate its digital advantage in a beocentric environment without returning to the analogue path.

Millemissen wrote:

@David Andel (see full post above)

All I can say, is that we disagree on these things.

We most certainly do. But should we stop to discuss then?

I'm too on the side "don't use a TV for music" as I simply think it's exaggerated just for source/track selection... There's nothing wrong with small status displays from e.g. preamplifiers or our beocenters that are showing the active source. ;)

But, I can see a completely different problem for Bang & Olufsen:
The prejudices about this company: Only design, no substance, high prices, just looks, bad soundquality etc. etc.

It could happen that real audiophiles simply don't take Bang & Olufsen seriously in this area and even IF the speakers are simply superb - which I assume - there might be the wrong brand name on it.
There are enough people who buy components from e.g. Accuphase and they won't even think about buying something from Bang & Olufsen. It is sad and here in Germany even the hifi magazines seem to stay away in some way from Bang & Olufsen components.

So, let's simply hope that the new speakers will be a big hit for Bang & Olufsen and that Tue doesn't blow it up. :)

It would be very sad to see the speakers having the same tragic fate as e.g. the Technics WSA-1 synthesizer from years ago. A fantastic machine with one serious problem: The wrong brand name was printed on the casing! If there would have been written Korg, Yamaha or Roland that machine would have sold like hot cakes.

I really pray for Bang & Olufsen. They need a big hit!

TWG wrote:

I'm too on the side "don't use a TV for music" as I simply think it's exaggerated just for source/track selection... There's nothing wrong with small status displays from e.g. preamplifiers or our beocenters that are showing the active source. ;)

A la the beautiful and functional Dot LED displays of the old Avant and BV7, even though they may not have displayed all of the requisite source information from an audio source, they might have been able to do so with a SW update. 

The whole idea of using a TV for music is conflated. The brains (receiver) just happens to be mated to a screen, which displays information. Overkill? Maybe. But when B&O is concerned one isn't simply using a TV for music, a TV screen just happens to be attached to one of the best sound processors on the market. 

On another point, I totally agree, though, that the stigma of the name B&O is difficult to overcome. Even when review after review of the Beolab 5 sung their praises, B&O as a brand is still labeled as style over substance. Tue has a big job to overcome that stereotype. A few products in the BeoPlay line have had moderate success, for example: Beolit 12 and A9, and A8 to a certain degree have been met with reviews of "this is worth the price" (or similar comments). But their mainstream products are a different story altogether.

4K TVs, motorized stands and wooden touch panels get all the journalist attention, clickbait, but the meat of those products isn't communicated as strongly by B&O as it should be. (See, the video which explains why the Moment exists). That video should have been released prior to the launch. "B&O have recognized a problem, here is the issue we see today... now we have a solution, here is the solution and why you need it." Yes, I know speakers are a different animal, but if they came from a brand which was seen TODAY as the pioneers that they were seen as in the bygone days, reception may be different.

As we've all said in many many threads / posts in the recent past: B&O needs to connect with new customers. We are the convinced, but unfortunately, some of us are becoming less so.

/end rant. 😎

New drivers! New speakers possibly will have 7400 W each! 

🤒