Chris wrote:

Will it be upgrading the Beolab 5 with new drivers?

Exactly 😁🤒

Raeuber wrote:

Paul W wrote:

Iy's not a rumour Raeuber. It's definitely happening! Crazy totally crazy in fact truly mental but true! I'm sure a new investor will pull the plug on it though!

Ok, then it's not a rumour but a joke. Like "Kia will produce an aeroplane"!

Kia Motors has a production output of 2 million vehicles per year - I am sure they could produce an aeroplane, if the wanted to.

MM

Raeuber wrote:

PhilLondon wrote:

The moment has a digital output and can read uncompressed files from your NAS.

A simple software update and the can add an Uncompressed streaming service.

There is no coaxial or optical digital sound output, Powerlink is an analogue output.

Waiting for a software update can take years.

@Räuber

1: Why (the heck) should the Moment have a 'coaxial or optical output'?

There is a PL-output with an analog line-level signal for ALL BeoLab's - do you question the quality of the DAC solution of the BS Moment?

The digital output is the WiSA connection for all new BeoLab's.

And don't forget the direct (digital) connection to a modern BV via NL (wired or wireless).

2: Why so negative?

I don't think, that B&O can dictate Deezer anything - they can negotiate....

Be sure that Sonos has 'bought' Deezer Elite, and have exclusive rights for a while.

I am sure, that B&O will provide a 'lossless music service', when possible.......for those who want it.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

@Räuber

1: Why (the heck) should the Moment have a 'coaxial or optical output'?

There is a PL-output with an analog line-level signal for ALL BeoLab's - do you question the quality of the DAC solution of the BS Moment?

The digital output is the WiSA connection for all new BeoLab's.

And don't forget the direct (digital) connection to a modern BV via NL (wired or wireless).

You know Raeuber, it's possible that these won't be marketed as hifi speakers but instead placed as home cinema speakers for use with the largest screen Avant! Then it's going to be Blu Ray & Apple TV as the sources.  It's possible that they are aiming these at footballers, celebs, drug barons etc because let's be honest, who else would spend 40K on a pair of speakers in 2015??? 

Millemissen wrote:

1: Why (the heck) should the Moment have a 'coaxial or optical output'?

Why are you always asking the same questions when they already have been answered? If you do not understand it, you should not generalize your lack of understanding. Or might it be even ignorance?

There is a PL-output with an analog line-level signal for ALL BeoLab's - do you question the quality of the DAC solution of the BS Moment?

Yes, as digital speakers do not need analogue signals. Would you also prefer analogue video signals over digital ones only because B&O was favoring them for backwards compatibility reasons or whatsoever? This is quite a useless point of view.

The digital output is the WiSA connection for all new BeoLab's.

Yes, why not introduce another exotic wireless protocol when supporting a well established wired industrywide standard would perfectly well do? Of course because B&O dominates the market! And because replacing a BeoLab 5 with something more recent and wireless is so much fun! Really Millemissen, I never read such an ignorant collection of non-arguments. Your always beo-ptimistic points of view will not save B&O from going under or helping them to sell more, it will be good ideas or intelligent integration with the digital hub. And I really hoped they would be able to do so, but illusions are always dying last.

And don't forget the direct (digital) connection to a modern BV via NL (wired or wireless).

Using a television set as an audio hub again is one of the weirdest solutions imaginable. Why not using the car stereo or a mobile phone? And no, I’m not serious.

2: Why so negative?

Why being positive if there’s no reason? We’re all customers and not a B&O charity group. If you love to replace your BeoLab 5 with a wireless model for being able to use the weirdly integrated and designed Moment, then go ahead! Let's wait if others follow …

Paul W wrote:

You know Raeuber, it's possible that these won't be marketed as hifi speakers but instead placed as home cinema speakers for use with the largest screen Avant! Then it's going to be Blu Ray & Apple TV as the sources. It's possible that they are aiming these at footballers, celebs, drug barons etc because let's be honest, who else would spend 40K on a pair of speakers in 2015???

Hey David why do you think that "Using a television set as an audio hub again is one of the weirdest solutions imaginable"? Don't forget the youngsters of today are used to their entire life being on laptops, iPads and iPhones. 12 years whilst I was at university the kids were using their desktops for playing music. Apple TV displays beautiful cover art of your music on your TV. My MacBook is my iTunes digital hub but look at my 20 minutes of music listening this afternoon before my gym training - I had France's NRJ Funky 80s radio station playing on my iPhone whilst showering, then I went downstairs and Airplay that to my TV, sat down with an espresso, opened my Facebook app and Airplay a HD surfing video onto the big screen before running upstairs again with NRJ then air playing to my B&O A8 in my weights room! The music then followed with me as I ran a 20minute journey to the gym!

And that's how I typically along with many other people live my life with music all around me :) And, I love it!!!

To Paul w,  I know numerous people including myself who  have £50k linn setups,because music is their passion and me included, so they see it as an investment in years of enjoyment.

People who enjoy cars spend double that.I have many customers from the lakes who are not drug barons etc retired business owners with £50k systems £80-100k cars and expensive houses,they still enjoy the outdoor lifestyle but life and luxuries aswell.

I think he said it would be weird with Beolabs 5 or "future" 40K-priced speakers.

Certainly appropriate with Beoplay A8.