NVGAE wrote:

My problem is the following:

It seems that I cannot connect the TV to my speakers in the living room without making the TV the "master", i.e. meaning that every time I want to listen to music via Beosound Moment the TV would need to be on/would turn on. This is no acceptable for me since I hardly never watch TV but listen to music every day. I was even thinking of not having the TV plugged into the mains all the time if it's not being used.

So my question is: Is there any way around this? The technicians that installed the TV said the above was the only possibility - so I'm hoping you guys know better! Is it really so that in order to share speakers with my Moment and Horizon I have to make the TV a master and the moment a slave? I hardly believe that all the time when people that have a B&O TV and a Moment in their living room that they have to turn on the TV/have the TV turned on in order to be able to listen to music - is that really the case?

Hello,

I've both a Moment and a Horizon so I'm just picturing if I could manage to setup my gear as to your requests.

First of all I make the following assumptions:

- Your gear is all connected to the same network, either WiFI or Lan (if on WiFi your network needs to be good off course)

- You have a Multiroom enabled A9 (MKII)

- You use the app and the remote

You can set-up as you wish. The Horizon acts as a source on your Multiroom set-up and you should be able to send the sound of the TV (programs, movies, radio, apps etc.) to either the Moment and the A9. Easiest way is selecting the TV as main source in the app and then join your Moment / A9 simultaneous or only one as you wish. On the tablet of the. Moment you see a Link button next to the playlist/radio screen. If you select the link tab you will see your Horizon and your A9. Selecting one of the sources joins the Moment into whatever that product is playing.

The other way arround is also possible, you play music from your Moment / A9 and join in the TV. 

This should be a very simple integration and I cannot imagine that your technician was not able to install this to be honest. Maybe your need is somewhat else?

Regarding the Tv as a master, I would advise you to try that also: the Moment has a way much better sound engine and your BL18/19 can produce even better sounds through the TV. Apart form many sound settings including bass management you can also make speaker role groups for TV watching, Movies and different music types. The only small inconvenience might be that your tv first needs to boot-up. Fast boot-up can be managed by setting up a quick start time frame (if wanted please say so, there is a special setup menu within the Horizon for this) and you can set the tv up in such way that the screen go's black after a few minutes. Because you are possible to connect your speakers through WISA to the TV you can have maximum flexibility to put the tv into your living room and bedroom as you wish (with wheelstand I assume). The Moment works very well with speakers connected through the TV so that should not be a problem. I have my Moment in another setup now and connected BL3's, but I miss a lot of performance from the speakers just because the sound engine of the Moment is very limited. My preference is to use the speakers connected through the TV. 

To conclude, your requested set-up should be no problem and you can improve the overall performance of your music listening a lot by using the TV as speaker master. Your TV is only a very clever hub and the only con for slightly longer boot-up (maybe 10 second longer) generates a lot of pro's on the actual sound performance of your speakers.

Please let me know if your request still differs from my assumptions / directions.

The problem that NVGAE has is, that he does not want to have the tv turn on, when listening to music - he even wrote that he wanted to unplug it, when not watching tv.

Hard to find a solution then ;-(

Furthermore - when linking the sound from the tv/tuner to the A9 (assumed it is a 2nd gen) or the Moment with connected speakers there would be a delay in the transmission.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

The problem that NVGAE has is, that he does not want to have the tv turn on, when listening to music - he even wrote that he wanted to unplug it, when not watching tv.

Hard to find a solution then ;-(

Furthermore - when linking the sound from the tv/tuner to the A9 (assumed it is a 2nd gen) or the Moment with connected speakers there would be a delay in the transmission.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

When they did the set-up we were not able to make the horizon appear as a source on the BSM. Are you sour that is possible? Anyways there some problems with the BSM so they took it with them and announced me today that I would get a new one (that will be the 3rd one I get).

My ideal set-up would be to have the BSM as a master and then join the BV Horizon on the link page or through the app when I want to use the BL18s and 19 when I'm watching films. The technicians did not mention that possibility - although I clearly expressed how unhappy I was with having to have the TV as a master. Anyone of you currently using this set-up?

But if I can do this set-up - why would the TV have to be plugged in the mains all the time Millemissen? Am I misunderstanding something?

Hi NVGAE,

I have a simulair setup with:

beovision horizon

beosound moment

beoplay m5

beolab 18

If I understand your wish correctly this is perfectly possible.

- Living room : beosound moment and your beolab speakers - connect moment to lan or wifi

- TV flexibel, no speakers attach

- A9 flexible

In the app on the tab multiroom you add all devices. You can now choose which device is the master and you can add ' speakers/product to it) So if you choose tv as device you can add the moment and the tv sound is through the speakers connected on the moment. You can setup sound delay in both the moment and the horizon. If you add the A9 when you are in the bedroom the a9 plays the sound.

I did it the other way around. I connect my beolab 18 to the tv (use the lot of possibilities of the sound engine of the tv and different speaker groups (TV, music etc).

I can pick up on the tv for example the radio or deezer from the moment or the m5 and it works well. So good that I sold the beosound moment because I could do everything I want with the m5. Only downfall with the m5 if I want t play deezer in my living room I cannot play another source on the m5 but that is no problem for me.

So if this is what you want I cannot understand that a technician could no do it because I bought a horizon last week and figured this out in a few hours?

Good luck

Regards

Edwin

Hi NVGAE,

I have a simulair setup with:

beovision horizon

beosound moment

beoplay m5

beolab 18

If I understand your wish correctly this is perfectly possible.

- Living room : beosound moment and your beolab speakers - connect moment to lan or wifi

- TV flexibel, no speakers attach

- A9 flexible

In the app on the tab multiroom you add all devices. You can now choose which device is the master and you can add ' speakers/product to it) So if you choose tv as device you can add the moment and the tv sound is through the speakers connected on the moment. You can setup sound delay in both the moment and the horizon. If you add the A9 when you are in the bedroom the a9 plays the sound.

I did it the other way around. I connect my beolab 18 to the tv (use the lot of possibilities of the sound engine of the tv and different speaker groups (TV, music etc).

I can pick up on the tv for example the radio or deezer from the moment or the m5 and it works well. So good that I sold the beosound moment because I could do everything I want with the m5. Only downfall with the m5 if I want t play deezer in my living room I cannot play another source on the m5 but that is no problem for me.

So if this is what you want I cannot understand that a technician could no do it because I bought a horizon last week and figured this out in a few hours?

Good luck

Regards

Edwin