@moxxey you are right, only (!) Samsung is getting to use that special app for iTunes video. It is quite another "hell froze over" moment for Apple fans... ;-) (remember iTunes for PC?). So it is indeed good to have Apple TV for the foreseeable future for other (and older than 2019!) TV (do not count on it for long, though!).

However, good to hear that other brands at least get the AirPlay video streaming. I can't wait to hear prices for the rollable LG OLED, that would definitely be my new TV, even though the base looks kind of big (but it is at the same time a fantastic soundbar, apparently).

Too bad Samsung is not up to par when it comes to picture quality. Oh, and I so wish B&O would at least continue to be a part of these new developments!!! :-( Even Sennheiser announced their new Soundbar...

#neweclipse

Greetings from Las Vegas! :-)

jarnim wrote:

The market seems to be so brutal that even Apple is apparently abandoning their AppleTV.

:P Hardly.. But giving manufacturers the possibility to add AirPlay 2, Homekit and iTunes Store means advantages for Apple since for now most systems are easy to use with Android phones and not iOS devices due to the lack of AirPlay. Now they give TV manufacturers the possibility to add this, making a ecosystem with iOS devices and different TVs a simpler solution without cables. It also means people can now rent movies from iTunes store which of course is revenue making for Apple. More possibilities to rent out movies without having to buy a separate box. 

Apple TV is great but most TV´s are thin, and we already struggle to fit them inside our B&O TVs - since we neither want to see them. Im confident Apple will continue selling the Apple TV due to its amazing user interface, speed, smoothness and app support in the IOS world. This news is simply extra ways to stream, rent and to use homekit devices. I believe the HomeKit implementation will still require an Apple hub like Apple TV or an iPad, but HomeKit integration at least means that we will be able to turn our TVs on by our phone, apple watch or computer, or connected switches etc. That I believe is really, really cool! For example, today I use my GPS fence to turn the lights on depending on time of day when I come home, and turn off when I leave. Now this would be possible with the TV too. Either schedule or act on action. 

It is not exclusive for Samsung either, LG, Vizio, Sony etc has already promised support and more will certainly come. 

AirPlay 2+HomeKit support announced by Sony today on its future TVs.

Michael wrote:

jarnim wrote:

The market seems to be so brutal that even Apple is apparently abandoning their AppleTV.

 

It is not exclusive for Samsung either, LG, Vizio, Sony etc has already promised support and more will certainly come. 

My point is not the AirPlay 2 possibility -- my point is Samsung (exclusively) offering an iTunes Movies and TV Shows app, apparently programmed by Apple, which includes access to the iTunes Store as well as access to your complete library. The experience will be just the same as running an Apple TV! Eddie Cue looks "forward to bringing the iTunes and AirPlay 2 experience to even more customers around the world through Samsung Smart TVs".

andy_js wrote:

Implementing Airplay in the Eclipse sound bar is looking like it wasn’t such a great idea. I love B&O, but if I can stream audio from my TV to other parts of the house using Airplay like you can with Beolink, I might be tempted to jump ship.

Interesting - it does raise the question of whether all TV audio (on say the new LG) will be distributable via AP2.

Right now, audio from Apple TV content can go multi-room, but not broadcast TV.

Will the new AP2 capable TV's be able to share all its audio? 

How does it work on the Eclipse? Is broadcast TV or any of the LG native apps share-able via the AP2 protocol, as opposed to B&O NL?

jarnim wrote:

My point is not the AirPlay 2 possibility -- my point is Samsung (exclusively) offering an iTunes Movies and TV Shows app , apparently programmed by Apple, which includes access to the iTunes Store as well as access to your complete library. The experience will be just the same as running an Apple TV! Eddie Cue looks "forward to bringing the iTunes and AirPlay 2 experience to even more customers around the world through Samsung Smart TVs".

Sandyb wrote:

Interesting - it does raise the question of whether all TV audio (on say the new LG) will be distributable via AP2.

My understanding is that it's a one-way possibility : you can stream to your TV from any of your Apple products, but nobody never said that it would allow to distribute TV (sound or image) to the Airplay protocol. It's just impossible as there is no other Apple product than the Apple TV that can act as a Airplay "receiver".

That's why there are still strong reasons to use Beolink instead of AP2. Those are complementary technologies.

About using AP2 instead of Beolink: please remind that Airplay 2 needs to stream from the iDevice, so you may drain your battery uselessly instead of streaming directly music to a Beolab from the internet...