S3 speakers arrived today - unpacking and first play!
HI
Is there an conclusion regarding using them as speakers for a ex. Beosound 4 via some sort of cable connecting powerlink to line in?
Mogens
They are still £149. How can there be such a HUGE price difference on a new product??? Just shows the profit on these. Now you can se why B&O don't make anything in Denmark anymore :( Kind of shows how silly people are to buy this brand at full RRP.
eglobalcentral germany sells them for 230-240€ (depending of the color) while the same site but .fr asks 100€ more! It's like entering in a carpet shop...
I'm glad I found this thread here.
I just bought my first S3 three days ago, and bought another pair (yes I have three of them now) today. Needless to say, I'm very happy with the sound of this little guy. I like the B&O brand as well.
One question: if you pair two S3 using true wireless, do you need to pair them again if you switch input, say, from iPhone to PC bluetooth? I tried several times before successfully pair my two S3, enjoyed the amazing stereo sound, and then decided to listen to ape on my laptop. The pair broke when I switch to PC and I can no longer pair them again. Still trying to read the user manual but would like to see if anyone here have experienced similar issue. 3rd day update: the issue is mainly caused by my laptop. I can switch between different phones without any needs to re-pair.
I care about this since my wife and I will be streaming audio to the system in turn. she'll be mad if she needs to pair them again whenever I've used them. I'll have to buy four if that's the case!
Update after one day's crazy testing:
1. I've become so frustrated about the wireless paring. Still, when I switch input device I'll need to pair them again but the pair no longer work. Both the speakers will flash white light endlessly with nothing happening. I have 3 S3 in hand now, tried to pair them in turn but the success seems to be random.
3rd day update:
1.1 I can switch input device without paring S3 again. my previous problem was mainly caused by the laptop (or by my own confusion). If I only use iPhone to stream music, I have no problem switching among different phones at all.
1.2 paring has no problem. However, when I paired two S3 (eg. my two white pair), then try to replace one of them with the 3rd one, the paring won't work unless I perform factory reset on the paired one. (press - and B&O button). General users won't have my previous problem at all because most of the users won't have more than two S3 at the same time.
2. Still testing, but I suspect that whenever I put them into deep sleep (light off, or disconnect the power plug), then wake them up again, I'll need to pair them. I haven't tested this yet because so far I haven't been able to successfully pair them up for hours... Beoplay website has a video showing how to pair: push the button on master speaker for 5s until white light flash and beep, then wait for 20s until hearing double beep. However, I've never been able to hear that double beep without turning slave speaker on. In fact, previously I only heard the double beep when I put slave speaker to paring mode immediately after the master speaker flash white, when they pair there will be double beep.
3rd day update: I was partly wrong on this point. If I put any of the paired S3 into deep sleep, or unplug them, they would still stay paired once I wake them up. Once paired, they always stay paired.
I do believe they should correct official paring instruction video. The double beep only comes after the speakers are successfully paired, not before.
3. Even when they pair in true wireless, one of them will lose sound constantly when playing music. I've experienced this mainly when I stream music from laptop. Not sure whether it's because the connection between master and slave is unstable, or because my laptop bluetooth output is unstable. I left the two speakers 1 meter apart when I experience this issue. Haven't seen much of this when streaming with iPhone, but I'll need to test iPhone with higher bit rate songs.
3rd day update: This issue was caused by my laptop. I've been streaming flac files with iPhone for an entire night without losing any channel. I did experience some hiccups using my mom's cheap phone. This made me believe that somehow laptops are not really built to stream audio via bluetooth. Laptop bluetooth transmission distance is shorter and quality is much worse than iPhone. I'll just use my phone as the audio center from now on.
Now things become complicated: my wife and I love the sound and look of S3 so much, but the fundamental function of this product doesn't seem to be reliable. I'll still test more because we really don't want to return them.
3rd day update: I ended up keeping two black S3 in stereo set up in living room, and my entire family are enjoying the beautiful sound.
When S3 was launched I was surprised to see so few marketing materials available online (user guide, review on amazon, documents, youtube review, etc.) and thought B&O didn't spend much resource on launching this little guy. However, now I'm thinking maybe there's other reason inside the company: someone from above pushed the launch without thorough user testing, while the engineers/marketing team know there's defect on this product and they want to hold it back. They aren't doing well in controlling sales channel as well, it's the first time I see a product to be discounted to less than half the price one month after it's launched. Seriously? Who dare to buy any new Beoplay product in future when facing such a huge price uncertainty?
3rd day update: Radioshack in US is running a promotion of buy two S3 with $299 (last week it was selling single S3 for $179). This price is a steal and I can't think of getting other B&O stuff lower than this. I'm not sure whether Radioshack will have other crazy promotion because I can see it is trying hard to clear its inventory before year end. My point is: people are not buying S3 because they have never heard of B&O or Beoplay at all. Bose, HK & JBL or even UE have much better brand awareness on this continent, while Sonos clearly has a good digital marketing team for selling online/offline and driving adoption with their expendable/multi-room solution. These competitors are all selling their major products in the $100 to $200 price range, while I do believe the $200 S3 is superior in sound quality and far better in design than other speakers. Hopefully Beoplay will be able to allocate better marketing resource on S3 and make it a good introductory product for general consumers. S3 is my first Beoplay product, and I know it won't be the last. I may go to target and grab one Sonos and record a video to compare it with S3. Hopefully that can be of little help to S3 users if I put review and video on amazon.
"However, hook up a pair (I am playing a pair in True wireless mode - i.e. wirelessly connected to each other and streaming Bluetooth from my iPhone 6) and they are a completely, completely, totally different sound - not just twice as good, ten times as good!"
Hi, I got two S3's for Christmas (in a really cheap bundle) and I have been unable to hook up 2 together, and use them with my Iphone. I have followed the instructions about making one the master and one the secondary speaker, but only one will play at a time. Any suggestions? I contacted my local retailer and he couldn't figure it out either. thanks.
Do this:
1. Press 'B&O' and '-' buttons together for more than 5s, red light will be on and the S3 will be reset to factory default. Do this for both speakers.
2. Connect master speaker to your iPhone via bluetooth
3. Then press B&O button on master speaker till white light flash
4. Press B&O button on slave speaker till white light flash. You can do this step right after step 3, no need to wait for 20s
5. Wait till you hear double beep sound on both speakers, and white light turns solid. This means they are paired.
You are all set!
Thanks for your response. Just curious, why is this a "secret" way to get them to work together, when the method in the instruction booklet doesn't work?
Will I be voiding my warranty by resetting to factory default using your method? (I'm not super tech-savvy). Especially if this doesn't work for some reason? Just a little leery....
Hi,
Just bought the S3 looking for a airplay solution. Your method is great !
After I googling I found that I can use a apple airport express with 3.5mm audio output for airplay but I don't know the DAC with one is better ?
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