Erik-nl wrote:

Was the NL not the main reason for buning B&O sound equipment. What is today the difference between the Balance and any google speaker - the color?

Not sure it is a good choice to abandon NL.

What makes you think that NL is abandoned?

MM

Its supposed to be coming back.

Though I wouldn't hold my breath for its return any time soon.

Yes, its return was "promised" just after the Balance release (over a year ago), but it doesn't look very likely before the end of this year at the earliest.

 

Erik-nl wrote:

Was the NL not the main reason for buning B&O sound equipment. What is today the difference between the Balance and any google speaker - the color?

Not sure it is a good choice to abandon NL.

 

I can see the attraction of Beolink and Netlink .
The tap to join is a great feature. 

Netlink is probably an engineering delight, but over time, I am sure to make all products work is just a plain nightmare for B&O.
Instead of keeping it simple, it does things no other system can do, but not that many users really need or care much about them.  

If they want audio in the kitchen, Most will happily buy just another stand alone system for it to be honest.
The amount of AP/bluetooth speakers over the last few years says enough.  It is simple and efficient. 
People just want to 'play some music'  or 'watch tv' with least amount of hassle. 

My wife just about knows how to get the main entertainment system going, (BV and BS5) but will happily switch on another system in another room when she moves around the house. 

We are not heavy cell phone users and mostly leave them charging in the evenings but we have a few housebound iPads around for AP streaming. Our tv's have appleTV's anyways.  All my stand alone systems have older ATV's or echo's connected.  

I have rebuild a small ML system, Yes, no need to point it out, I know it's old and dated and it is not perfect.
BUT : The main draw is that It is simple to use, it works and it just about does all we need it to do.
And I do this only because: 1) I have legacy ML items.   2) because I can and have a bunch of cables, etc around anyways.
3) Though we live in close to downtown, internet can be wonky and has frequent slow downs and drop outs so streaming is not always the answer.

We will probably move next year and we will reevaluate at that point. Thinking of adding another Beosound1, stage and maybe a pair of 18's or 28's at that point.

 

So it Beolink going? This thread references it is back in March but since then it’s said they are adding it to the balance and other speakers.

Seanie_230 wrote:

So it Beolink going? This thread references it is back in March but since then it’s said they are adding it to the balance and other speakers. Eclipse 65 V1-32 Beosound M5 Essence MK2 BLI

No one really knows about timing

Yes, they’ve said Q3, but from I understand that’s slipped towards closer to the end of the year. History would suggest caution and expecting slow delivery

The recent survey would suggest they are not close to delivery, given that they were seeking user opinions so recently

We also have no idea whether the NL type function that will eventually be added to the newer Mozart speakers will play nice with previous NL speakers, or whether that cross talk will come at an even later stage!

cooldude wrote:

I have rebuild a small ML system, Yes, no need to point it out, I know it's old and dated and it is not perfect.
BUT : The main draw is that It is simple to use, it works and it just about does all we need it to do.

NL is simple to use it works and is superior to ML and intergrates older ML systems.

 

Carolpa wrote:

NL is simple to use it works and is superior to ML and intergrates older ML systems.

 

ML is hardcoded into the systems I have connected and hardwired to each other, so it and is fully independent from software and IP protocol changes in the future. As long as these systems keep working, the ML will exist.

NL is mostly software based and will be totally useless in the future as the rest of technology moves to newer protocols and standards.

Yes, I am aware what NL offers, but personally, I have come to the conclusion that I do really need a lot of the 'extras' it offers. Nor could I validate the extra cost of integrating my ML systems into it.

 

 

 

cooldude wrote:

Carolpa wrote:

NL is simple to use it works and is superior to ML and intergrates older ML systems.

 

ML is hardcoded into the systems I have connected and hardwired to each other, so it and is fully independent from software and IP protocol changes in the future. As long as these systems keep working, the ML will exist.

NL is mostly software based and will be totally useless in the future as the rest of technology moves to newer protocols and standards.

Yes, I am aware what NL offers, but personally, I have come to the conclusion that I do really need a lot of the 'extras' it offers. Nor could I validate the extra cost of integrating my ML systems into it.

None rhe less…..in your previous post you wrote:

’We will probably move next year and we will reevaluate at that point. Thinking of adding another Beosound1, stage and maybe a pair of 18's or 28's at that point.’

MM

Millemissen wrote:

None rhe less…..in your previous post you wrote:

’We will probably move next year and we will reevaluate at that point. Thinking of adding another Beosound1, stage and maybe a pair of 18's or 28's at that point.’

MM

Indeed, but that does not mean I will change everything to NL.  Beolab28's could be just power link speakers, replacing or adding to my existing ones and the stage is basically a stand alone system, no ?

I was just saying that I am happy with MY setup for now. It's pretty fool proof and without hiccups and does what we want it to do. Not more, but not less either.  

But who knows what the future brings !? 😐  

 

 

No need to change everything to NL - I run a mixed setup too (that you can do this is one of the excellent things with B&O).

Just curious - if/when you add the mentioned products - how you are going to use them?

Maybe you will like the simplicity of starting somewhere and adding another device directly (the JOIN function) and if you will be using the ease of the MyButtons on the 28’s?

Please keep us posted.

MM