Reply for my question on Software Update enabling NL BeoLink Multiroom:

"As the brand new BeoSound Balance does not have the respective older ASE (Audio Stream Engine), I am afraid that this is not technically possible through a pure software update." 🙁

alex_112 wrote:

Reply for my question on Software Update enabling NL BeoLink Multiroom:

"As the brand new BeoSound Balance does not have the respective older ASE (Audio Stream Engine), I am afraid that this is not technically possible through a pure software update."

BV14, BV10, BeoGram 3000, 4500, BS 9000, Moment, Core, Ouverture, Essence, Beo6, BROneBT, BeoTime, ML/NL, BLGW, BeoLab 2, 11, 18, CX100, BeoPlay A6, M3, E8/H3/H8

Several things there;

For one, those, who carry their phone everywhere anyway - even in the bathroom.

Why should they want NL/Join.

And then  those, who wants to get rid of it - the more the better - at home...

.....we are for maintaining NL and joining and remote controlling (BROne/Essence Remote).

But also don’t forget, that many just start the music in the whole house - and let it play.

Some use voice commands via GA. (or Siri).....no need for a mobile phone there and certainly not for the NL/Join function or ‘fancy’ (expensive) remotes there.

That is how a lot of people ‘use’ music nowadays!

We should also consider, that the less integrated services (like TuneIn, Deezer, DLNA and halfways Spotify Connect) there are, the less the need for NL...

....there is simply nothing that can be distributed over B&O multiroom anymore.

Combining AP over NL and using AP2 for music distribution is not a good mixture - and people with one or maybe more non-B&O AP2 devices certainly won’t let go of AP2.

So - maybe - when in the current and coming devices there will be no more integrated services - apart from QPlay ;-( - there will be nothing to distribute over NL, thus nothing to join!!!

Personalky I like NL and the ease of use. 
For me and my fellow NL-devotes, the only way forward (hmmmm!) will be to get hold of the M5’s the A9 MK2, the Core’s with Beolabs/the Shape, the Essence MK2‘s and maybe even prevent them from being updated.

Not a nice thought - seeing that the new devices from B&O are getting better and better.....soundwise.

Or should we just give in.....and run around with our phones all day long everywhere or maybe start talking to our devices ;-(((

MM

steve1977 wrote:

alex_112 wrote:

Reply for my question on Software Update enabling NL BeoLink Multiroom:

"As the brand new BeoSound Balance does not have the respective older ASE (Audio Stream Engine), I am afraid that this is not technically possible through a pure software update."

BV14, BV10, BeoGram 3000, 4500, BS 9000, Moment, Core, Ouverture, Essence, Beo6, BROneBT, BeoTime, ML/NL, BLGW, BeoLab 2, 11, 18, CX100, BeoPlay A6, M3, E8/H3/H8

This implies the balance has the new ASE, which we heard rumors about. Now, the very big question is what the new remote will be to steer this new “ASE”.

My big hope is that b&o somehow brings the “join feature” back. For example, fully integrating it with AP/CC to allow B&O devices to join/unjoin by tap would actually turn a loss into a gain...

I am afraid that will never happen due to ’technical problems’ that are out of the hands of B&O.

MM

By the way, ditching NL will make the life of the dealers - especially those who aren’t B&O dealers in the old way - much easier.

There will not be much to explain there.

Also handy when you intend to sell more and more online.

MM

Indeed, though it was news to me (according to some replies above) that with the Harmony (Eclipse?) / Stage, TV sound cannot be distributed via NL multi-room.

If true, a sad outcome.

And much as I said that NL would not last long, that was not out of any desire, just a reading fo what was highly likely.

Anyway, I'll have a char with my dealer about the removal of TV audio from mutliroom, just to confirm.

Millemissen wrote:

By the way, ditching NL will make the life of the dealers - especially those who aren’t B&O dealers in the old way - much easier.

There will not be much to explain there.

Also handy when you intend to sell more and more online.

MM

The B&O that I knew and loved sounds like it will no longer exist. It's funny that every time I've looked at the HomePod in the Apple Store, I remind myself that it's not compatible with B&O's multiroom and walk away. With the new B&O direction, that won't be true anymore. I might as well buy a HomePod in the future instead of a new B&O speaker. That's a sale lost to B&O. B&O, are you listening??

Millemissen wrote:

But also don’t forget, that many just start the music in the whole house - and let it play.

Some use voice commands via GA. (or Siri).....no need for a mobile phone there and certainly not for the NL/Join function or ‘fancy’ (expensive) remotes there.

That is how a lot of people ‘use’ music nowadays!

I do exactly that sometimes: Tell google to play in "whole house". That is  no problem.

But if I´m in the kitchen and tell google to "play Paradise Radio in the kitchen" and then walk upstairs to the library, and tell Google "to play Paradise Radio in the library" they do not play in sync and I need to go to each individual speaker to adjust volume in the google app (or B&O app).

I can multiroom the audio from my Harmony around no problem, just fyi.