Removed Audiomaster from NL/ML converter. Need assistance with settings.

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HHH wrote:

MasterLink only works when you have a "Current Master" on the ML to supply the voltage/power for ML to function, that used to be your BC2 but now that's gone you are missing that for ML to work

NOT true - the NL/ML converter takes this over

Carolpa wrote:

HHH wrote:

MasterLink only works when you have a "Current Master" on the ML to supply the voltage/power for ML to function, that used to be your BC2 but now that's gone you are missing that for ML to work

 

NOT true - the NL/ML converter takes this over

Hmmm...

This is really key to sort out. Who can reconfirm either of these statements?

 

 

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Sorry I'm 100% sure I'm correct, the NL/ML can be configured as "Audio Master" or "Video Master" but that is not the same as "Current master" and the NL/ML BLC can not currently take on that task 

I've personally tested and confirmed this is to be true (currently)

HHH wrote:

The answer was given earlier but seems to have been overlooked

MasterLink only works when you have a "Current Master" on the ML to supply the voltage/power for ML to function, that used to be your BC2 but now that's gone you are missing that for ML to work

Only audio systems with ML or Video products with ML can act as the Current Master, the only exception is the old BeoLink converter AUX/ML that can also do the job, but without it your masterlink system will not work

Sorry for the bad news, hope this helps to get the problem sorted out for you

Thanks HHH, I'm sure this is the case.

Dealers on the forum please take note.
HHH wrote:

Sorry I'm 100% sure I'm correct, the NL/ML can be configured as "Audio Master" or "Video Master" but that is not the same as "Current master" and the NL/ML BLC can not currently take on that task

I've personally tested and confirmed this is to be true (currently)

Disapointing. But saves me a lot of work.

What is the simplest "current master" I could get?

Thinking of adding a Beocenter 6 to my link room, replacing the BL3500. Could that serve RADIO over the link system?

Location: Sweden

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Hiort wrote:

Disapointing. But saves me a lot of work.

What is the simplest "current master" I could get?

Thinking of adding a Beocenter 6 to my link room, replacing the BL3500. Could that serve RADIO over the link system?

Happy owner of: BV11 46", NL/ML Converter, 2 x Beocom 2, Beocom 6000, Beocenter 2, Beolab 3, Beolab 2000, Beo4, Beolab 11, Playmaker, Beolab 3500, 2 x Beolit 12

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Hi,

you have to use a Beolink Converter type 1611 . This gives you the necessary 'Audio Master' on the Masterlink Bus, if no other Audio System is connected to.

Connect your iPod with a headphone plug / DIN cable (best choice to buy is soundsheavenly who is a sponsor of this site) to the Audio AUX Link connector of the Beolink converter 1611. With the Beolink 1000 / Beo4 /5 /6 you activate a videosource (TV, SAT, DTV, V-Tape,DVD....) and the converter puts the signal from its AUX Link onto the Masterlink Bus and the Beolab 3500 give you the sound 🙂

Sure - if you added a TV with ML (would be v option 2 in your case) then you have the "Current Master" covered and now you can make the NL/ML BLC your "Audio Master" and now you can activate the line-in from the BLC on your ML and NL rooms (just login to the BLC and map the line-in to a source command of your choice that's compatible with your exciting ML system 

You could also choose to route the sound thru the ML TV and distribute that way, but then you would have to deal with delay/Ecco between ML and NL rooms (you could also pull the sound from your NL TV)

The simplest "Current Master" is the old AUX-ML Converter this would do the trick also (just remember to power reset it after you configure your NL/ML BLC role as Audio Master) as depend on what version you have it can auto configure it self as either a Audio master or Video master based on what it sees already excist on the ML

Really endless possibilities :-) 

hope the info is helpful

Thanks everyone for providing inputs for my problems/challenges.

I thought it would be useful to summarize some of the findings, for others thinking of replacing their Audiomaster with a Moment:

 

  1. You need an Masterlink Audio or Videomaster in the system. Otherwise ML will not work at all, since nothing is providing current into the ML.
  2. NL/ML Converter does not fulfill that function.
  3. Simplest way is to add a Beolink Converter type 1611 on the ML side. That will feed the current needed in the ML system.

 

Back to my specific configuration:

Adding the Beolink Converter will solve my number one usecase:

Pick up whatever is played out on the Master link, on either BL3500 or BL2000. 

Number two usecase is being checked by B&O:

Press RADIO on the remote in linkroom, and have the "Radio source" on Moment (integrated to a BV11) to play out on the ML.

I have confirmed with my dealer that a Moment integrated with a BV11 respond correctly on a RADIO command from a BEO4. Its possible to configure CD to trigger e.g MUSIC on Moment.

Question is still if the Moment will react to a RADIO (or CD) command sent from ML over a NL/ML converter, over the BV11. As said above, the question is sent to B&O support.

 

 

Location: Sweden

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Update on my issue:

Added a Beolink Converter type 1611 instead of the Audiomaster i removed. Just plugged in the ML connection I used for the BC2.

Now everything works as before:

I can press TV on my remote from a linkroom and play TV sound over BL3500.

I can join music played from A.AUX source from NL/ML converter  (from my Playmaker) from linkrooms. (Pushing PLAY buttion on BL2000 or MUTE on BL3500).

I still cannot access anything played from Moment. Moment is not putting anything out on the Masterlink (or NL/ML converter is not). As I understand replies from B&O Customer Service, this will be fixed in the upcoming "multi room release" .

Location: Sweden

My B&O Icons:

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Beoplay-Earset.png Beoplay-Earset.png
Beoplay-Beosound1.png Beoplay-Beosound1.png
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@Hiort - they are working hard on that!

Please be patient.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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