Questioning B&O quality

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Manbearpig wrote:

Actually, I would say Rolls Royce is poor quality 😕

Same applies for Audi, Porsche, Mercedes or any other 'quality' car manufacturer though.  It was just an example.

Dave.

 

Don't take me too seriously, Dave. Point well taken. I don't think there's much of a difference nowadays in terms of quality between the various brands when it comes to car manufacturers.

Manbearpig wrote:
Don't take me too seriously, Dave.

I never do!  Only kidding.

I think you are right,  these days, especially with cars.  Even more so now that one brand seems to be buying all of the others!  I don't think the same can be said for consumer electronics though - or can it?

Dave.

The 8000-series (90's ones) are pretty average build quality, I think they were made by Hitachi like a lot of other Beocord VCR's. For an example, the VX4500/5500 are ver good machines but every small electrolytic capacitor needs replacing for trouble free operation. The pówer supply and capstan motor driver heats up a lot, you'd like to invest in at least 105°C electrolytics for the most part.

Broke my left arm in a traffic accident yesterday so my post takes a bit longer to write!

Søren Hammer wrote:

The 8000-series (90's ones) are pretty average build quality, I think they were made by Hitachi like a lot of other Beocord VCR's. For an example, the VX4500/5500 are ver good machines but every small electrolytic capacitor needs replacing for trouble free operation. The pówer supply and capstan motor driver heats up a lot, you'd like to invest in at least 105°C electrolytics for the most part.

Broke my left arm in a traffic accident yesterday so my post takes a bit longer to write!

Oh no! I'm very sorry to hear about your accident and broken bone Soren. I hope it's a relatively simple break that will heal well and quickly. I shattered my right elbow decades ago and still have the TSA airport security scan tripping metal in there, I never get to walk thru without being wanded.

As for VCRs, perhaps it's just me, but every single one I ever owned, from an early generation RCA thru JVC and Mitsubishi and other brands all were problematic with respect to long term reliability, mainly due to aging and slipping of belts. I got pretty good at changing belts and idler wheels. I kept the old RCA of mine and the one my parents owned running for the better part of a decade or so. If you look at the convolutions and such the mechanism has to perform to get the tape out of the shell and wrap it around the helical scan heads, well, it's no surprise that there would be issues now and then.

As for other B&O kit, I've found it to be quite reliable so far, knock on wood aluminum. The only service I've had to have done was the glass started to get loose on my BS9000, first gen early one, and I had to get it reattached. As it'd been about a decade I went ahead and had them change the laser as many of the first gen ones were having issues though mine was fine, more preventative maintenance as it was while it was in the shop. Other than that, it and my BL8000s have been fine since 1997 when I got them. My Beogram 3000 tangential works fine and I got it in 1987!

But, there are good and bad examples of everything. My dad used to be in the Air Force and did aircraft maintenance. He said some aircraft would fly forever without breaking and some were "hanger queens" that never managed to work properly and fly without some issue. Sometimes the tolerances all seem to stack up in one direction and cause issues.

Yes, beocord v8000 had a few issues back in the days they were sold (1998/2005).

Same vcr than the Avant and in the three Avant vcr we had in the family I was the only lucky one without any problems (and the only one that had a great use with the kids).

So 2 out of 3 were rubbish.

But still I can't see the point off saying that (very) old vcr's bought on ebay (certainly for a few $) are not working anymore.

Even at B&O some lemons exists.

Luckily I use products that are older than your v8000 and still work perfecly so B&O quality is here.

Just connected my old Hitachi vcr and works fine. Was stored away for at least 10 years. This is the third time I've put it out and it has always worked. Before I also had two VX7000 and even those gave me problems. For what they cost they are not worth it!

Think the ultimate machine was the VX 5500.
Had a VX 7000 for ages worked great with the beovision MX and what a look in pearlerescent blue.

One little concern thought : was too noisy for my taste while skipping forward or backward.

The V8000 was a Philips based machine of pretty moderate quality - I have one somewhere! The VHS deck to have at the time was the VX5000, made by Hitachi. All sorts of electronic trickery in a very slim design. The only problem was reliability as they tended to run hot and are also really designed for use with the LX2802 models so not much use now. I have one and a later VX7000 which is very basic in comparison. The VX5500, although not as sophisticated, is probably more reliable than the VX5000 and has more to it than the VX7000.

The VX5000 sold for what would now be £2500 in 1990 (£1145)

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