Oppo UDP-205, Harmony, BL50, and BL17 for surround

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😁Sure, I will send photos as soon as the renovation is finalised 

LuffeDK wrote:

Thanks a lot for quick answer. 
What is the difference between e.g. left back and surround back - will it change the sound?

Furthermore, is it correct that the Harmony L&R should be off and only center is on when enabling the 5.0.2 setup?

These terms are often used rather confusingly.

Normally what you call ‘left back’ would be the speaker placed and set as the left rear speaker behind you.

A ‘surround back’ does not really excist - surround speakers are those, that are placed beside the listening position.....and back would mean speakers that are placed at the back aka rear speakers.

You really should consult the Technical Sound Guide found on the B&O website - there you find good explanations for speaker placement and assigning these to the different roles. Also google for the Dolby layouts of 5.X/7.X speaker configurations.

As for how to use (or not) the L/R’s of the Harmony, when you want a multichannel setup, there are different takes on this.

As with all audio and audio configuration it depends on your room - and indeed on how far you have placed the BL5’s from the tv....also on your seating posions in front of the tv (especially when more people are listening).

You will have to experiment a bit - one good starting point would be to engage the LR as Center, set these up with a difference of 3 db to the C of the Harmony and set the distance of the C to approx 20 centimeters further away than the L/R.

See this video interview with Geoff Martin, where this also is discussed (head for 15:00):

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Generally in terms of setup with a 5.1 track, the “rear” speakers are the surround audio track. With 7.1 the “rear” speakers are in the back track position and so in that case they should be in the back position, because the the surround speakers are the middle ones in the 7.1 tracks.

The left and right of the harmony aren’t on on mine either, you can turn them on (as MM reffered to, by Geoff) but i think it makes the center a bit boomy. That’s up to you, to me it makes more sense on an avant or eclipse as the harmony already kicks butt 😎

I had an Oppo 205 connected to my 50s and the dac is indeed superior than The one in the harmony or 50s. The Oppo 205 DAC is considered one of the best dacs out there. I’ve gone through about ten external dacs in the last 2 years with the 5os so can positively recommend it. You just have to have 2 RCA leads into the RCA inputs. 

I had an Oppo 205 connected to my 50s and the dac is indeed superior than The one in the harmony or 50s. The Oppo 205 DAC is considered one of the best dacs out there. I’ve gone through about ten external dacs in the last 2 years with the 5os so can positively recommend it. You just have to have 2 RCA leads into the RCA inputs. 

Thanks again,

I have seen the video but I must have misunderstood. 
I thought left and right speaker in my case was the two BL50’s. 
I reduced them (the 2xBL50) with 2dB and boosted the Harmony with 1db. I “moved” the Harmony centre channel 20cm further away from the BL50. 


I will definitely check out the sound guide - I have lots to learn. 

thanks again!! 

Thanks - I need to find a 205 in order to listen to it. 
I haven’t tried the Panasonic for audio/cd yet.

Currently, I am streaming everything from Deezer hifi.
I have tried to stream via the B&O app and from the LG Deezer app.
I have also tried to airplay Deezer Hifi from my iPhone to the Harmony.
- out of the three options it seems like the later has a few dB higher input - it is a bit louder when the Harmony is set at same volume. In the beginning I thought it sounded better...

I know I can increase the dB in the settings (on the B&O app on the Harmony itself) but I haven’t played with that as I guess I can introduce added distortion.

 

 

LuffeDK wrote:

Thanks again,

I have seen the video but I must have misunderstood. I thought left and right speaker in my case was the two BL50’s. I reduced them (the 2xBL50) with 2dB and boosted the Harmony with 1db. I “moved” the Harmony centre channel 20cm further away from the BL50.

I will definitely check out the sound guide - I have lots to learn.

thanks again!!

No, geoff was talking about the left and right of the speakers inside the harmony/eclipse/avant. They are labeled as bv harmony L and bv harmony R. So you set the bv harmony C to the correct distance and at 0(if that is desired/confirmed with db meter in refference to the other speakers in the speakergroup) you then you check the same for distance and output for the bv harmony L qnd bv harmony R (both of those are also set to center). You then bump the bv harmony C by +1db and the bv harmony L & R bump those down -3db. Then you ad an additional 20cm to the bv harmony C channel for distance.

That is what Geoff said to try, just doing the Harmony C channel for center speaker channel only isn’t “wrong” or “bad” just default and a different way of doing it.

Millemissen wrote:

Hej Luffe,

seems to be a nearly perfect setup you’ll have there.

I would not worry too much about additional speakers for that layout.

As long as the surround and the rear speakers are configured as such and angled proper downwards towards your main listening position, you should be good to go.

First get that 7.0 setup up and running - later on you could make some experiments with more speakers, if you feel like wanting more....although I am not sure that you would benefit much from that. You will be able to buy the 17’s further on for quite a long time (if not new, then secondhand).

Please consult the Technical Sound Guide (on the B&O website) for how to set up the speakers, how to configure etc.

With the OPPO 205 you will have a perfect companion for both movie and music listening.

As for pure (2 channel) music listening , I would use the seperate inputs of the BL50’s.

Please have a look on this post from Geoff Martin Sat, Aug 22 2020 9:56 AM here: link

where he is describing how he uses his BL90’s with the OPPO 105 and his BV.

Plenty of options there. Take your time to get it right.

And keep on posting your questions as you go along with the setup - there are several users here, who have similar setups and who definitely would like to share their experiences.

And....you don’t have to apologize for a long post.

It is that sort of posting, that makes it interesting to comment - with a lot of postings here, you often first have to guess, what the real concerns of the writers are.

And welcome to the Beoworld forum :-)

P.S. Don’t forget....the forumusers love pictures of other users setups! 

MM

The BL50,BL17 & Harmony have now been installed and I promised to send a photos

 

 

 

 

 

 

Millemissen wrote:

Hej Luffe,

seems to be a nearly perfect setup you’ll have there.

I would not worry too much about additional speakers for that layout.

As long as the surround and the rear speakers are configured as such and angled proper downwards towards your main listening position, you should be good to go.

First get that 7.0 setup up and running - later on you could make some experiments with more speakers, if you feel like wanting more....although I am not sure that you would benefit much from that. You will be able to buy the 17’s further on for quite a long time (if not new, then secondhand).

Please consult the Technical Sound Guide (on the B&O website) for how to set up the speakers, how to configure etc.

With the OPPO 205 you will have a perfect companion for both movie and music listening.

As for pure (2 channel) music listening , I would use the seperate inputs of the BL50’s.

Please have a look on this post from Geoff Martin Sat, Aug 22 2020 9:56 AM here: link

where he is describing how he uses his BL90’s with the OPPO 105 and his BV.

Plenty of options there. Take your time to get it right.

And keep on posting your questions as you go along with the setup - there are several users here, who have similar setups and who definitely would like to share their experiences.

And....you don’t have to apologize for a long post.

It is that sort of posting, that makes it interesting to comment - with a lot of postings here, you often first have to guess, what the real concerns of the writers are.

And welcome to the Beoworld forum :-)

P.S. Don’t forget....the forumusers love pictures of other users setups! 

MM

The BL50,BL17 & Harmony have now been installed and I promised to send a photos

 

 

 

 

 

 

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