Millemissen wrote:

The line-in connected APE is just a source on the NL then.

And certainly not integrated with the PatternPlay/MoodWheel!

My plan for whenever I choose to pull the trigger on the Moment is to use the line in for connecting my Beogram 6500 Turntable, simple, easy, and the Moment can act as an all-round audio hub.

dueno wrote:

You can use the moment only for deezer and tunein radio and an airport expres on the line in for your itunes library.

I have my CD player connected to the Line In at the moment as the track order issue is really preventing me from integrating my iTunes library via Twonky with Deezer etc- what I thought the Moment would do!

Can anyone advise if my problem is still a metadata issue within my iTunes library or is there a bug in the way Twonky is reading it?

Skiingtrumpeter wrote:

dueno wrote:

You can use the moment only for deezer and tunein radio and an airport expres on the line in for your itunes library.

I have my CD player connected to the Line In at the moment as the track order issue is really preventing me from integrating my iTunes library via Twonky with Deezer etc- what I thought the Moment would do!

Can anyone advise if my problem is still a metadata issue within my iTunes library or is there a bug in the way Twonky is reading it?

Hi Skiingtrumpeter,

at this time, there is no solution for the "tracks-in-wrong-order"-issue.

Unfortunately - this is one of the bigger bugs in the software of the BS Moment. Even if your tracks are perfectly tagged - the moment will mix up the order. If you have Albums with only one CD, all tracks should be shown the right order. But If you have more than 1 CD in a Album and you have it sorted like: Artist/Album/CD1 ... CD2 , the Moment will show the tracks in this order: Track1 (from CD2), Track1 (from CD1), Track2 (from CD2), Track2 (from CD1)... - even if the Twonky-Interface is showing the whole Album in a perfect order. I tried different ways to find a solution.

The only way to overcome this issue is to combine all CD´s of one Album in one Folder (Artist/Album/01 - artist - title.mp3...). Therefore you have to retag/rename the tracks/files of CD2, CD3... with consecutive numbers to the first CD (if the cd1 ends with track 17, you must retag/rename the first track of CD2 to the Tracknumber 18... . That is a lot of work and I decided against this solution. It would be better, if B&O offers a fix for this bug instead of crippling your own (proper) database.

Using Deezer is only a work around but a solution. 

When it comes to Playlists, the issue is even bigger. All tracks will be mixed up and not shown in the BeoMusic-App. I can not start a playlist from the BeoMusic-App. If I want to start a playlist, I have to use the BS-Moment-Jukebox instead.

In my opinion, everyone of you should forward all known/ experienced bugs to their dealers and to BeoCare and demanding a solution from them. Even if they tested the Device with a 40.000 track-Database from a NAS/DLNA-Server (as they told me), I can not fathom, why they didn´t recognized this really obvious bug.

Cheers Beroli

Beroli wrote:

Even if they tested the Device with a 40.000 track-Database from a NAS/DLNA-Server (as they told me), I can not fathom, why they didn´t recognized this really obvious bug

J

Beroli wrote:

Skiingtrumpeter wrote:

dueno wrote:

You can use the moment only for deezer and tunein radio and an airport expres on the line in for your itunes library.

I have my CD player connected to the Line In at the moment as the track order issue is really preventing me from integrating my iTunes library via Twonky with Deezer etc- what I thought the Moment would do!

Can anyone advise if my problem is still a metadata issue within my iTunes library or is there a bug in the way Twonky is reading it?

Hi Skiingtrumpeter,

at this time, there is no solution for the "tracks-in-wrong-order"-issue.

Unfortunately - this is one of the bigger bugs in the software of the BS Moment. Even if your tracks are perfectly tagged - the moment will mix up the order. If you have Albums with only one CD, all tracks should be shown the right order. But If you have more than 1 CD in a Album and you have it sorted like: Artist/Album/CD1 ... CD2 , the Moment will show the tracks in this order: Track1 (from CD2), Track1 (from CD1), Track2 (from CD2), Track2 (from CD1)... - even if the Twonky-Interface is showing the whole Album in a perfect order. I tried different ways to find a solution.

The only way to overcome this issue is to combine all CD´s of one Album in one Folder (Artist/Album/01 - artist - title.mp3...). Therefore you have to retag/rename the tracks/files of CD2, CD3... with consecutive numbers to the first CD (if the cd1 ends with track 17, you must retag/rename the first track of CD2 to the Tracknumber 18... . That is a lot of work and I decided against this solution. It would be better, if B&O offers a fix for this bug instead of crippling your own (proper) database.

Using Deezer is only a work around but a solution. 

When it comes to Playlists, the issue is even bigger. All tracks will be mixed up and not shown in the BeoMusic-App. I can not start a playlist from the BeoMusic-App. If I want to start a playlist, I have to use the BS-Moment-Jukebox instead.

In my opinion, everyone of you should forward all known/ experienced bugs to their dealers and to BeoCare and demanding a solution from them. Even if they tested the Device with a 40.000 track-Database from a NAS/DLNA-Server (as they told me), I can not fathom, why they didn´t recognized this really obvious bug.

Cheers Beroli

on the beosound 5 everything works perfect.

This is ridiculous!

I can't understand why some people here on the forum find this oke'.

We are almost 7 months further!

Thanks so much for clarifying this problem. Whilst it is bad news and very frustrating, not to mention mystifying why B and O did not pick this bug up- at least I won't waste any more time messing with the metadata to try to solve it. I will definitely take it up with my dealer although he doesn't seem to be at all well informed....🙁

Not really worth a new thread, and not really B&O related or is it? It looked best to place in in here.

Before I went in vacation there where problems with Twonky version 7.2.7 on my mac mini after the last Yosemite update to version 10.10.4 from July 8. Using this Twonky version resulted in losing the connection with my Moment after 15 minutes running well.

In short: Remotely viewing the Mac mini showed me that Twonky was perfectly up and running, but I could not reach the browser-based control interface anymore, Twonky's UI page gives me no connection. Rebooting Twonky resulted in another 15 min. faultless session. Viewing the Twonky ini file showed no problems and port 9000 is open for the UI page.

I did not want to look into the Twonky community forum in finding a solution, so after two attempts of reinstalling Twonky 7.2.7  I tried another Twonky version 8.0.3 on the Mac. After 13 hours, Twonky is still up and running fine now. Looks like a Yosemite bug to me with the older 7.2.7 version.

Hi Chris,

there is a Twonky Server-Version 7.2.8. Have you tried this version too? 7.2.7 had some issues with Yosemite from the very first start. As I wrote on page 14 - 7.2.8 and 8.0.3. are working well under Yosemite. Both of them still have troubles with the yosemite firewall. If you activate the Firewall, you have to allow after every restart of yosemite all incoming connections to the twonky server. The yosemite firewall is not able to save this setting - even if you create your own security-certificate for the twonky-server. (You will find many posts about this in the Twonky-Forum)

In general you could say: If you have trouble with any Software-Server on a mac/pc -  try to switch of the firewall temporally, to evaluate the connection issues to the BS-Moment. 

I like the Twonky-server. But this software is becoming of age. There are less and less NAS on the market with the possibility to install the latest Twonky-version. Therefore it would be wise from B&O, if they focus on the general/basic DLNA-Protocol (nowadays implemented in every NAS) instead of the improvement of a Twonky-BS-Moment-Setup only.

Just a reminder: Don´t forget to switch of the "refreshing" of the Twonky-Server in the settings. In some cases it will happen at the same time, when the BS-Moment is checking the server - with the result, that your music is going m.i.A..  

Cheers Beroli

Dear Beroli, absolutely agree with your kindly comments. Its for sure the July 8th update that was giving the trouble. Before that date it was running well on my only for music dedicated Mac mini (without firewall!), so its a bug Apple has to resolve in Yosemite (but when?).

I had the 8.0.3 version in my download page from a while ago, so I used it for a try. I did not find after a long well equipped holiday the courage to dig deep into the Twonky forum. Anyway, the problem looks to be resolved and Twonky is now running stable. I placed this fault on my diary for future investigation.

You brought up the older software B&O is recommending, and I'm completely agree that B&O would made it better priority nr. 1 to look on a overall DLNA use for the Moment.

Luckily are you, myself and offcourse more forum members not a noob or digital illiterate in computer soft- and hardware, but I can imagine that a lot of Moment buyers and visitors of the Beoworld forum will burst into problems with the Moment. That brought me to another thinking, would it not be interesting to have a 'Moment forum' also on Beoworld? This kind of problems and solutions would fit exactly into it.