“I am hoping for something along Robin’s #2 or #3, i.e. without home theatre support (? & Dolby Atmos ?) I don’t see it helping dedicated B&O followers although like BeoPlay it may be a less expensive introducer.

What I fear is the package will be pure B&O advanced tech (e.g. WISA etc) which would drive price up.

Maybe a WISA Systems Module would be a good idea 

And similarly if it had either Core innards or a Core Systems Module that would make it attractive and extensible.”

Personally I think that it is even rather interesting to get the older B&O customers back in the track who used to have an avant along with an ouverture or so fiddling around with a set up of lab 6000 and 8000. I guess many of them still have these labs connected to their CD player but have a new flat panel by Samsung or LG. On my search for a solution for my setup I have talked to many dealers from different perspectives and they pretty much all said. Customers would love to keep the loudspeakers but as they were not able to connect them properly to their new tellie it would be a pain in the a..

As it will be a b&o product I guess it’s quite expensive. Hopefully not too much. 

Why would you like to have the Beo sound Core parts in it. It’s just a stereo module, isn’t it?

Robin wrote:

Why would you like to have the Beo sound Core parts in it. It’s just a stereo module, isn’t it?

Robin wrote:

interesting to get the older B&O customers back in the track who used to have an avant along with an ouverture or so fiddling around with a set up of lab 6000 and 8000. I guess many of them still have these labs connected to their CD player but have a new flat panel by Samsung or LG. On my search for a solution for my setup I have talked to many dealers from different perspectives and they pretty much all said. Customers would love to keep the loudspeakers but as they were not able to connect them properly to their new tellie

elephant wrote:

I see the Core ad a streamer ... yes of internet stereo sources; and also a joiner to other stereo sourced rooms.

Just having a soundbar is not B&O value.

A B&O soundbat must be source and a destination for multi-room setups. BeoNut since '75

Barry Santini wrote:

elephant wrote:

 

I see the Core ad a streamer ... yes of internet stereo sources; and also a joiner to other stereo sourced rooms.

 

Just having a soundbar is not B&O value.

 

A B&O soundbat must be source and a destination for multi-room setups. BeoNut since '75

 

 

 

Disagree. B&O soundbar frees sound and control from recent poor video decisions by mama.

Agree completely, plus would expand the potential market to a lot of us who don't think the Beovisions are worth it and/or like to change panels to keep up with new tech often. But, I hate to say it, given B&Os problems of late, I'm not sure I would trust a product like this from them and buy it, even though it would allow me to merge my systems, audio and video, and if it were rationally priced.

Jeff wrote:

Barry Santini wrote:

elephant wrote:

I see the Core ad a streamer ... yes of internet stereo sources; and also a joiner to other stereo sourced rooms.

Just having a soundbar is not B&O value.

A B&O soundbat must be source and a destination for multi-room setups. BeoNut since '75

Disagree. B&O soundbar frees sound and control from recent poor video decisions by mama.

Agree completely, plus would expand the potential market to a lot of us who don't think the Beovisions are worth it and/or like to change panels to keep up with new tech often. But, I hate to say it, given B&Os problems of late, I'm not sure I would trust a product like this from them and buy it, even though it would allow me to merge my systems, audio and video, and if it were rationally priced.

Can't recall just how many years ago I raised this.. A motorised soundbar on a stand with the PUC control in the soundbar for the screen of your choice mounted above. VESA mount for the panel.  Should be a no brainer for B&O, but are they listening to posters on Beoworld?

Graham

I think the new soundbar they will release in spring 2019 will be more a "lower end" solution similar to the Beosound 3500 but with HDMI, hopefully not more expensive than 2.900 euro. 

The best and high-end solution would of course be a combination of the Eclipse Soundcenter, a motorized stand with VESA and a BeoRemote One. If B&O would bring this to market at let's say around 5.900 Euro, I am sure they will sell this 3-4 times better than the Eclipse TV. Even if it would cannibalize a bit the Eclipse TV sales, the overall revenue and margin would certainly be better for B&O. Perhaps they will finally change their mind and bring such a product to the market. They claim to concentrate on audio in the future, so this would be a product to prove that they are following this strategy ...

Pricewise by adding standard LG panels to this combination, a 55 inch solution would cost 7.325 Euro (LG 55C8LLA 1425.-+5900.-), a 65 inch solution would cost 8.020 euro (LG 65C8LLA 2120.- +5900.-) and the 77 inch model would cost 11.700 Euro (LG 77C8LLA 4800.-+5900.- plus 1000 Euro add-on cost for the bigger motorized stand for the 77 inch model). 

These prices would be very attractive and B&O would be much more competitive in the market by doing this.

I mean who is still willing to pay 20.000 Euro for a B&O 77 inch TV if the LG panel costs now 4800.- ?? But that would be the price if they would launch a 77 inch Eclipse TV, considering that the 65' Eclipse costs 14.250 Euro

vikinger wrote:

Jeff wrote:

Barry Santini wrote:

elephant wrote:

I see the Core ad a streamer ... yes of internet stereo sources; and also a joiner to other stereo sourced rooms.

Just having a soundbar is not B&O value.

A B&O soundbat must be source and a destination for multi-room setups. BeoNut since '75

Disagree. B&O soundbar frees sound and control from recent poor video decisions by mama.

Agree completely, plus would expand the potential market to a lot of us who don't think the Beovisions are worth it and/or like to change panels to keep up with new tech often. But, I hate to say it, given B&Os problems of late, I'm not sure I would trust a product like this from them and buy it, even though it would allow me to merge my systems, audio and video, and if it were rationally priced.

Can't recall just how many years ago I raised this.. A motorised soundbar on a stand with the PUC control in the soundbar for the screen of your choice mounted above. VESA mount for the panel.  Should be a no brainer for B&O, but are they listening to posters on Beoworld?

Graham

Stick to what you're good at and good things come.

Several days ago we purchased a new B**** washing machine. I asked the installer about the best brands he sees in his day-to-day experience. He told me that most of them were good, but to never buy an L* or S****** because the electronics boards were fiddly and very expensive to replace. Assuming he was being truthful, wouldn't people like us be very surprised that electronics companies making machines would end up failing at what they supposedly do best?

I also wonder how you can create the ultimate forward AND backward integrating B&O system. It will have to strip the audio from digital sources AND sync with analog coming from an integrated MCL/ML/NL converter and have lots of places to stick different plugs. It will need programmable control points to accept commands in other rooms. This product still must be able to communicate to other integrated systems, like Control 4 and, forget I mentioned it. 

The problems with the future-proof B&O solution is that no one company can be great at everything. Phllips and B&W are making a premium but SIMPLE 2 or 3 channel A/V product with Philips responsible for the outcome. Meridian is now with LG. Loewe controlled by Hisense. B&O went the other direction and, in the interested public's eye, will be out of the video business when the contracts with LG are fulfilled. Why? I think it is because B&O are incapable of making, selling, distributing, and supporting the production of enough A/V products to be profitable. So if B&O want to be in that business, they would now have to be the B&W to the Philips in any given partnership. How likely is that, given their pride history? 

The same will be true for the dream BeoSystem 7++. You absolutely cannot put a cassette player into a 2019 Ford/B&O Play/Sync product. You also cannot make a Past & Future BeoCenter that will look like B&O for a price that’s affordable by anyone who actually looks at his accounts. You have to be absolute masters of tech to manage process sync across platforms not to mention wirelessly. Linn’s extreme version that clicks only half the feature boxes costs 7k euros. B&O got out of the engineering and manufacturing businesses, and what appears left is spec, design, accounting, legal, and marketing; much of it outsourced. Never say never, but...

That's great if the shareholders are pleased. And it would be great to be totally off center with this, but not feeling it. 

given their pride history?

I think the proper word is arrogance.