You wrote two messages in tandem so I reply here:

- no problem to find a projector screen that can fold up that gives a good contast with a projector cheaper than a beovision 77" but as I said, I do not have space for a 77" tv and for cinematic experience I would really like a really big screen! A small OLED can never compete with that imho. If so, then all cinemas would also be OLED ;)

- PS5 can be plugged into the soundcenter, of course, in the current gen there is no good support - which is also why it needs to be updated. 

I agree a small screen is not the same as a big one,

But projector is a dying species.

They dont have HDR, good black levels, and you only see 4K in hig end projectors.

And the Cinemas will also move to Mini LED of these reasons.

And about HDMI 2.1 it will come in the soundcenter at one point, but should we guess in 3 years time maybe?

Emil Jensen wrote:

I agree a small screen is not the same as a big one,

But projector is a dying species.

They dont have HDR, good black levels, and you only see 4K in hig end projectors.

And the Cinemas will also move to Mini LED of these reasons.

And about HDMI 2.1 it will come in the soundcenter at one point, but should we guess in 3 years time maybe?

Hehe, HDMI 2.1 was announced 2017 and released november that year. It is a fairly common technology in current gen products so a three year wait for B&O over the two years that already passed? Nah, sounds waaaay to long.

Of course projectors and big screen monitors are battling but it still doesnt change the fact in the scenario I have. I would be happy to have a ultra short throw 4K laser projector for those moments I want to eat popcorn and chill with my friends and a nice scifi movie. The effect of being immersed in the movie is better tha a small picture with better contrast. And usually I dim the lights when watching a movie anyway so it really is not an issue. For daylight viewing and less special moments I would be happy to watch on a regular 55" screen.

I also think Cinemas will change to using panelbased solutions more and more and I think we will se more of this in homes as well. I think the solutions where you make your own screen by using smaller panels without frames next to each other is really cool and a way to build a real AV screen in your home that can be integrated with the decor in a very cool way.  

Hi Michael, 

I agree on many of your views,

But yes the HDMI 2.1 was annonced in 2017, but not certified.

And can you mention another brand than LG that have it? Samasung have it in 1 input on their very expensive 8K tv's.

And Marantz and Denon have just annonced new surround recievers, again one HDMI 2.1 input.

It is a big joke,

But when much lager corporations than B&O cant do it, I dont count B&O doing it very fast either. 

Do you?

Agreed, and thats right.

2.1 as a certified spec was pretty much still being tested by the av manufacturers through much of 2018 even.

Denon have only just brought out a full 2.1 AV processor, and yes it sonly LG who have put the fully specced ports on their TVs.

They will take their time as usual, especially as the consumer demand for it is still growing from a low base.

And it may well be (or is already) on BVs with the latest LG screens, but for the rest of B&Os portfolio, it wont be there for a while yet.

And if you're not a gamer, its really not urgent at all.

Emil Jensen wrote:

Hi Michael, 

I agree on many of your views,

But yes the HDMI 2.1 was annonced in 2017, but not certified.

And can you mention another brand than LG that have it? Samasung have it in 1 input on their very expensive 8K tv's.

And Marantz and Denon have just annonced new surround recievers, again one HDMI 2.1 input.

It is a big joke,

But when much lager corporations than B&O cant do it, I dont count B&O doing it very fast either. 

Do you?

Sandyb wrote:

Agreed, and thats right.

2.1 as a certified spec was pretty much still being tested by the av manufacturers through much of 2018 even.

Denon have only just brought out a full 2.1 AV processor, and yes it sonly LG who have put the fully specced ports on their TVs.

They will take their time as usual, especially as the consumer demand for it is still growing from a low base.

And it may well be (or is already) on BVs with the latest LG screens, but for the rest of B&Os portfolio, it wont be there for a while yet.

And if you're not a gamer, its really not urgent at all.

Well, releasing a product now without it would be plainly stupid. It might not be urgent but it is a technology that is coming to be stronger in not a long time. If you buy a product now, it's pretty nice if it is kind of good for a few years to come. But of course, not everyone needs or wants it. Especially the aging older B&O clientele, but the younger ones probably do. 

But B&O TV have 3x HDMI 2.1 Input and 4 HDMI 2.0 inputs that must be sufficient (Only the Harmony, but i guess also the new Eclipse) 

Michael wrote:

Well, releasing a product now without it would be plainly stupid. It might not be urgent but it is a technology that is coming to be stronger in not a long time. If you buy a product now, it's pretty nice if it is kind of good for a few years to come. But of course, not everyone needs or wants it. Especially the aging older B&O clientele, but the younger ones probably do.

Beolab 50, Beolab 20, Beolab 8000 x 2, Beolab 4000 x 2, BeoSound Core, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound Century, BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay P2, BeoPlay H9i, BeoPlay H6, EarSet 3i, BeoVision Avant 55, BeoPlay V1-40, BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)

Michael wrote:

Well, releasing a product now without it would be plainly stupid. It might not be urgent but it is a technology that is coming to be stronger in not a long time. If you buy a product now, it's pretty nice if it is kind of good for a few years to come. But of course, not everyone needs or wants it. Especially the aging older B&O clientele, but the younger ones probably do.

Beolab 50, Beolab 20, Beolab 8000 x 2, Beolab 4000 x 2, BeoSound Core, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound Century, BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay P2, BeoPlay H9i, BeoPlay H6, EarSet 3i, BeoVision Avant 55, BeoPlay V1-40, BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)

We can continue arguing about things forever. I don't have time for it though. I work a lot and comment because B&O is a hobby of mine. For me they are a company who want to do things very well. Just look at the BeoGram 4002 that is now again current. Or the Beolab 50 or 90. Nothing ordinary about it. 

Lets not write four pages about HDMI 2.1 or Projector support. I wish they had it, and thats it. You guys have another opinion and that is fine by me too. I just WISH they did incorporate an extra HDMI output in the SoundCenter so a projector or some such could be used if prefered instead of the primary monitor.

And of course, that raised the question of HDMI 2.1 for use with high framerate content like PS5 and I guess if they would make a new SoundCenter that it could incorporate the technology, it wouldn't necessarily cost them anything and the device is expensive enough to cover that.

Anyway, there is still no new Eclipse, and they made a video about how good a movie can be, so I just hope they will deliver on that. Instead of that Intel inside feeling someone wrote about (exactly what I felt as well). Hehe. Peace!