New tv bv14

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mawheele wrote:

Totally right. It is funny that when the Avant first came out, many individuals were saying don't buy it because of the lack of HVEC. Now today its HDR. The media industry is being driven by distribution and consumption. The TV and producer parts of the industry are trying desperately to find points of value and the problem is this is great technology that does not map to modern viewing behaviours. Sky get this really well. Sky Q is the perfect compromise and they truly understand viewing behaviour and know that Sport for example is the point of entry into new tech. The 0.000000x% who buy a Blu-ray 4k with HDR will I'm sure enjoy several movies they end up using it for. And for those lucky enough to have mega bandwidth - coz you'll need it!!!! - then I'm sure you'll enjoy Game of Thrones via Netflix. But that bandwidth will not be commonplace in the UK for several more years unfortunately because our government and the regulators are far too lenient on BT Openworld. Bit of politics thrown in there for good measure ;-) This is why Apple was smart staying 1080P and likewise SkyQ Mini's are also only 1080P. My 2 cents and I'm sure many might disagree.

Well the HEVC complaints for the Avant rang true and lo and behold the BV14 does have HEVC support and built in Netflix. Exactly what people were asking for back then.

HDR gives a better picture quality. B&O are unable to supply a HDR compliant TV at this time. The only unknown is how many of these new TV's B&O will sell, some will buy oblivious to the omission, some will buy regardless while others will either wait or buy something else.

These are the facts, there's little point in throwing online tantrums about it, ... jeez, there are some folk who will argue with themselves in an empty room!

mawheele wrote:

Totally right. It is funny that when the Avant first came out, many individuals were saying don't buy it because of the lack of HVEC. Now today its HDR. The media industry is being driven by distribution and consumption. The TV and producer parts of the industry are trying desperately to find points of value and the problem is this is great technology that does not map to modern viewing behaviours. Sky get this really well. Sky Q is the perfect compromise and they truly understand viewing behaviour and know that Sport for example is the point of entry into new tech. The 0.000000x% who buy a Blu-ray 4k with HDR will I'm sure enjoy several movies they end up using it for. And for those lucky enough to have mega bandwidth - coz you'll need it!!!! - then I'm sure you'll enjoy Game of Thrones via Netflix. But that bandwidth will not be commonplace in the UK for several more years unfortunately because our government and the regulators are far too lenient on BT Openworld. Bit of politics thrown in there for good measure ;-) This is why Apple was smart staying 1080P and likewise SkyQ Mini's are also only 1080P. My 2 cents and I'm sure many might disagree.

Netflix 25 megabit/s for HDR 4K. Most bluray will feature HDR and many already do. Don't think 0% is correct. HDR is about color accuracy and depth. Of course you don't need it but it's a good think. Like having surround sound instead of stereo sound.

The lack of hvec on the first 4K avant is a problem since no built in 4K video can be processed because of it. But enjoying lower spec video is fine.

mawheele wrote:

Andrew wrote:

It might be an idea to wait and actually see one working before getting obsessed with the technology - personally I would rather have a natural picture on a 40 inch screen than some massive screen with the colour and contrast turned up to impress everyone.

Totally right. It is funny that when the Avant first came out, many individuals were saying don't buy it because of the lack of HVEC. Now today its HDR. The media industry is being driven by distribution and consumption. The TV and producer parts of the industry are trying desperately to find points of value and the problem is this is great technology that does not map to modern viewing behaviours. Sky get this really well. Sky Q is the perfect compromise and they truly understand viewing behaviour and know that Sport for example is the point of entry into new tech.  The 0.000000x% who buy a Blu-ray 4k with HDR will I'm sure enjoy several movies they end up using it for. And for those lucky enough to have mega bandwidth - coz you'll need it!!!! - then I'm sure you'll enjoy Game of Thrones via Netflix. But that bandwidth will not be commonplace in the UK for several more years unfortunately because our government and the regulators are far too lenient on BT Openworld. Bit of politics thrown in there for good measure ;-) This is why Apple was smart staying 1080P and likewise SkyQ Mini's are also only 1080P. My 2 cents and I'm sure many might disagree.

 

The Avant launching without HEVC was unfortunate but different to this case of the BV14.  At the time the Avant came out the standard specs for 4K across the industry were in flux. So in a way I can understand them leaving HEVC off the Avant.  One of the big reasons people are calling B&O out on lack of HDR on the BV14 is because the standard specs are now set by all the major TV manufacturers and they have just chose to ignore them.

Was at my local B&O store today:

They had the new wood "fret" installed on a BV11 (the BV14 would first arrive in a week's time). The wood looked nicer in person than on the pictures, but still not my style.

They showed me the new BeoRemote One BT, it now has tactile lines to make it easier to "feel" the right button, not just for volume and programme switches. Interestingly, it apparently comes in two versions: The one on the webpage with the 4 programmable buttons and another one with Android standard compliant buttons including a big Netflix button at the top (apparently this option has to be offered for Android licence compliance reasons)

They also hinted that the Avant NG is coming out towards the end of the year..main upgrade is the move to the new Android platform.
Sky will be doing HDR upgrade to the Sky Q box (it can already do it) at some stage.Also the extra room box will do 4K in time it's a chip thing on first launch.

The new wood frets is it just only for design? 

Michael wrote:

And continuous debate about how it's nothing that matters?

I went through the same when Moment was launched. Why do you need a better tablet? Why you need 802.11n WiFi?

So I stopped discussing. :) In the meantime, Moment proved to be perfectly addressing "typical B&O customers' needs" and became a great success. Not.

TWG wrote:

and if the German lion thingy is even Made in Germany...

It is. <3

Back to BV14: I gave it another thought and figured out my problem is I don't have 10.000 EUR to cash out no questions asked, and then go for another TV in 2 years. If I would, I would buy it without hesitation as BV11/14 for me probably is THE most beautiful TV design I have ever seen.

Sadly, I am not a target B&O customer. :( (And that's mine, not B&O's problem)

koning wrote:

The new wood frets is it just only for design? 

From what I saw inspecting it in the store, yes. It looks purely cosmetical.

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