Hi Jon,

Now your talking my language lol.

I will check out the website and look at the options.

I'm so drawn to the B & O range it's just down to affordability to meet my needs and if the price is too High then your solution will be looked at I will also look at the XTZ speakers I previously had as they were brilliant especially the ribbon tweeters.

Stuart.

Hi Guy,

Never go shopping sober......lol lol, brilliant.

I normally go high ( only kidding )

Ok in my quest to sort things I raised the speakers to ear level (Jeff) and the difference was much improved.

The Treble was better but still has a brittely / abrasive sound but defiantly better.

The Bass was much less muddled and more controlled but to my listening pleasure there if not enough Bass for my taste as I prefer it more prominent but not in your face.

It did give glimours of this but I think a lack of power stopped it short.

Next step: To change the speaker cables this should ( with the newer type of cableing ) tighten up both Treble and Bass and hopefully a better presence.

i will upgrade my membership here and get the manuals to adjust the sound to my taste and cross my fingers lol.

If all good at this point then I may go for a non B&O sub to Finnish it off.

Oh and I will defo be visiting the Glasgow store thanks.

A huge thank you to all who has nursed me through this task.

Stuart.

Stuartk1164 wrote:

Hi Guy,

Never go shopping sober......lol lol, brilliant.

I normally go high ( only kidding )

Ok in my quest to sort things I raised the speakers to ear level (Jeff) and the difference was much improved.

The Treble was better but still has a brittely / abrasive sound but defiantly better.

The Bass was much less muddled and more controlled but to my listening pleasure there if not enough Bass for my taste as I prefer it more prominent but not in your face.

It did give glimours of this but I think a lack of power stopped it short.

Next step: To change the speaker cables this should ( with the newer type of cableing ) tighten up both Treble and Bass and hopefully a better presence.

i will upgrade my membership here and get the manuals to adjust the sound to my taste and cross my fingers lol.

If all good at this point then I may go for a non B&O sub to Finnish it off.

Oh and I will defo be visiting the Glasgow store thanks.

A huge thank you to all who has nursed me through this task.

Stuart.

Hi again

A sub could very well solve your problem, I believe. I am skeptical about the cables though.  I have never heard anything interesting when trying different cables in any equipment.

Do listen to BL 3 if you bump into a B&O store.

Have fun

Clakke

Well, re bass remember you're dealing with a speaker with a 4 inch woofer, even with adaptive bass linearization there only so much air a driver that size can move. As for the treble, kind of surprising, as that tweeter is usually smooth and if anything not very extended or bright. How are the tone controls on the Beosound set?

You might try different room placement if your furnishings allow, some areas will have more room gain than others.

You can certainly use a different amp and speakers, I had my Beosound 9000 hooked up to a McIntosh MC240 tube amp and a pair of NHT 2.3 speakers for a few months untol I got my Beolab 8000's.

If you stumble over a pair of used Beolab Penta (active) or Beovox Penta (passive), give them a listening try ...

They are not too expensive (my Beovox Penta 800€ a pair), installing included.

Mine are connected to an ARCAM Solo amplifier and the ARCAM Solo to my Beovision 8. The amplifyer is introduced to my Beovision 8 as a pair of Beolab 5 ;-) Rearspeakers are a pair of Beolab 4000.

iPoditiv

Jeff,

Good point 4" aint going to produce a huge amount.

The settings will need adjusted and I hope that will give me the clarity I'm looking for.

Clakke,

I'm surprised you say that no cables have made a difference to the sound in your experience as I have defo had a big improvement when changing cables on my speakers, although not in a B & O set up.

Ipoditiv,

Interesting to hear of the different combo's with amp & speakers and I hear what you are saying.

I will get a sub first as this will give the Bass I want and as I said to Jeff I will look at adjusting Treble / Bass too.

Stuart.

JontyL wrote:

I wanted to mention another option for you.  I have a Detoma power amp (D102) which drives some budget Eltax speakers.  The Detoma is incredibly sweet and has B & O friendly plug sockets.  This way I enjoy the best of both worlds - the beauty of the BS3000 and benefits of another manufacturers speakers

I like where this is going!

I do this as well, except not with Detoma. I use Niles and Yamaha amplifiers and I'm looking at a JBL/Urei amp now... Speakers are JBL.

The Niles integrates really well due to the DC trigger, it can accept the B&O powerlink 5v.

All of which is driven by a 4500 system.

Stuartk1164 wrote:

 

Clakke,

I'm surprised you say that no cables have made a difference to the sound in your experience as I have defo had a big improvement when changing cables on my speakers, although not in a B & O set up.

Hi

I wrote that I did not heard anything interesting. Meaning that I sometimes heard something different, but never anything for the better. Since then I have only bought simple cables (of god quality). I think most B&O people in here thinks about the same. Just an impression I get from reading threads here. Concerning the B&O stuff, I did not care at all. Just left it to the installers.

Another thing is right now when we are building a Home Theater (without B&O). There is a question which receiver to use. The shop suggest a rather expensive one that they think would work well with the speakers we will have. I have never listened to different receivers. Anybody know how much a good amplifier will do? Anybody that have compared a cheaper receiver vs an expensive one?

Clakke

hello,

Oh right I see what you mean.

I too have tried the the cheap v the expensive amp on home cinema big difference for obvious reasons although when you say a good amp that is probably what I would call an expensive one.

The cables I have bought in the past were of good quality and I suppose simple in construction I would never buy the ones that cost stupid money for me that  would not make that much of a difference.

i'm thinking that B & O cables will be of good quality anyway probably in line with what I would normally call an upgraded cable.

Stuart.