Clakke wrote:

Stuartk1164 wrote:

Thanks Clakke, Yes that is my fear TBH I had an Onkyo amp high up the range with Cyrus CD with XTZ speakers PV1 Sub! Spendor C9 centre with Kef rears, top ranger Marantz Blu-Ray and at the moment wish it was back.

i mean if this is as good as it gets then oh no how could I buy without a demo.

Anyone want to buy a system lol.

Stuart.

Hi

I do not exactly know the setup you had before. If it is what I think, I am afraid that BL 4000 is no match for that equipment (soundwise). Have a listen to BL 3 or BL 8000. If you can spare a lot of money, you should of course listen to BL 9 or 5. After that your old equipment will be out matched 😁

The advantage with B&O is that you can trade in to some extent.

Clakke 

Hi there, 

No I don't suppose it will match it but should be close to the XTZ sound.

Yes they do trade ins. 

will they take my house you think lol.

I love hifi mainly for the sound then the looks and I like things neat and tidy B&O should and I think will be perfect but if this is what you get for the money (talking at full price not my second hand price) then it is over priced and I would not go to the Beolab 5 level as that to me is mad but I would love to listen to such a sound as it must produce.

Oh the joy of being loaded 😁

Stuart.

Stuart,

Where are you located? maybe a local person could offer some help?

Get them off the floor but close to the wall. They were designed for wall or shelf mounting, it doesn't surprise me they would sound bad on the floor. Any small speaker will. Your ears should be at the same height as the drivers or slightly lower IMO.

I have BL4000 and BL3, in comparison the BL3 is much more clear. I think that the 4000 is a nice speaker, but not as clear as a BL3! It is a bit "damped"? I think it has more bass than the BL3 but that is about it.. Go and listen to BL3 and compare it. It is a small good looking and affordable speaker with more clearity. Then make up your mind about the B&O setup :) 

A good combo in my opinion is to have them both - more bass from the 4000 and clarity from the 3s :) I have the 4000 as rears for my tv. Quite often I set the speakers to 4 and listen to both speakers in stereo - great for music. Now someone will probably say that using the BL9 will be even better, probably and not as affordable... :)

Thanks for all the replys so far.

Jeff,

Yes definately as in the original post they are on the floor on a temp basis but wall / bookshelf is a good suggestion as this I suppose that is what their designed for.

Would I be right in saying that stands will reduce Bass if not positioned near a wall?

I live in Paisley Scotland and there is a dealer in Glasgow and I have priced stands for them, they were £60 more than another store I phoned which does annoy me.

Interesting was the suggestion of the BL3 as this is the wifes first choice she loves the way they look I went for the 4000 as I thought the Bass would have been much more so a possability would be BL3 + a Subwoofer but again the B&O Subs are pricey, I have owned the B&W PV1 for which it's price is  a 3rd less.

I have been reading about the different connections to accomadate non B&O products but for me that is kind of defeating the objective, the B&O set up was supposed to tidy it all up one unit and speakers and I know what I'm like if I start to buy thing I will get carried away ( probably like most on here I would imagine).

Stuart.

Stuartk1164 wrote:

Thanks for all the replys so far.

Jeff,

Yes definately as in the original post they are on the floor on a temp basis but wall / bookshelf is a good suggestion as this I suppose that is what their designed for.

Would I be right in saying that stands will reduce Bass if not positioned near a wall?

I live in Paisley Scotland and there is a dealer in Glasgow and I have priced stands for them, they were £60 more than another store I phoned which does annoy me.

Interesting was the suggestion of the BL3 as this is the wifes first choice she loves the way they look I went for the 4000 as I thought the Bass would have been much more so a possability would be BL3 + a Subwoofer but again the B&O Subs are pricey, I have owned the B&W PV1 for which it's price is  a 3rd less.

I have been reading about the different connections to accomadate non B&O products but for me that is kind of defeating the objective, the B&O set up was supposed to tidy it all up one unit and speakers and I know what I'm like if I start to buy thing I will get carried away ( probably like most on here I would imagine).

Stuart.

Hi again

I suggest you first go and listen to BL 3 without a sub. I have BL 3 myself and I do not think they need any sub for music. They will probably be even better with a sub of some kind. It is a total different speaker, in my opinion, than BL 4000. Not in the same league. It is more expensive yes, but most people will not miss anything with this speaker. There is simply not enough power in BL 4000 for real HiFi sound. BL 3 is just as tidy as BL 4000 and it seems that your wife is with you.

However, make sure there is a store that allows you to listen seriously. Most B&O stores have their speakers placed just to look good. Most often the left and right speaker are too close to each other in the stores. Try to move around them.

Good luck

Clakke

Thanks Clakke,

That sounds like a plan.

The BL3's IMO are more tidier and thats why the wife likes them.

I have just noticed I have been getting mixed up between BL 3 & BL4. ( thr BL 4's would need a sub thats more like what I was thinking)

It's the BL4 the wife likes, not acctually shown her the 3's, oh the confusion lol lol.

Stuart.

Maybe we will get some more information from guys using/have used both speakers (BL4000 vs BL3) regarding the difference.

Every day I see my polished BL4000 (placed as rear speaker behind my sofa), I say to myself what a beautuful speaker it is, but always ask myself if the BL3 would deliver a much better sound.

Hi Hotknife,

They do look good

How would you describe your sound?, ie Bass and Treble?

Stuart.

Stuartk1164 wrote:

Thanks Clakke,

That sounds like a plan.

The BL3's IMO are more tidier and thats why the wife likes them.

I have just noticed I have been getting mixed up between BL 3 & BL4. ( thr BL 4's would need a sub thats more like what I was thinking)

It's the BL4 the wife likes, not acctually shown her the 3's, oh the confusion lol lol.

Stuart.

 

BL4 : http://www.bang-olufsen.com/beolab4

BL 4000 : http://www.bang-olufsen.com/beolab4000

BL3 : http://www.bang-olufsen.com/beolab3

 

I have the BL4000 and the BL3.

I listened to the BL4, they look pretty nice, but in my opinion they sound terrible.. They work out as computer speakers, but not as hifi speakers.. 

Listening to music the BL4000 have better bass. Less treble, not as crisp sound as the BL3. 

Listening to music with my BL3, light, crisp, great sounding speaker, not as much bass as I would like, but I perfer this infront of my BL4000. 

My advice is to listen to the different speakers in a store, I think you will find the BL3 are the best between these three speakers.