Hi Evan - Yep im loving the BV10-32 even more than the BV5/BV9.   I love the white speaker grille and also the orange one too as orange is my ultimate favourite colour!   I had a play with a white iPad2 this weekend - really impressed!

I am definitely a fan of the orange, but my system is predominantly white and I would like to have a complete look. I would probably have both frets anyway! To me, the 5/9 have so much more substance. Who knows, my taste will probably change entirely by the time I get a chance to buy a B&O tv.

Re: your earlier posts on the BS8, I think I would only get one if I had an iPad. I like the thought of one, but I have a dock that goes straight into my BeoSystem so having a BS8 would be a total waste. If I had the chance [and means], I would probably buy a BS1 over the BS8.

Heribert wrote:

Actually I do not really care if B&O products are build in Denmark or in czech republic as long as they are of good quality and are B&O. In Dk labor costs are at least 3times higher then in CZ, so it is very reasonable to produce there.

B&O is special because of Design, quality and features. Being "danish" is not a relevant product specifics for me. You also buy an iPhone because of Design, Uniquness and quality and not because it is made in USA (it is China, as we all know).

I'm of the same opinion to an extent. Parts made elsewhere sure. As a flagship brand though it's a little borderline. Would you buy a Ferrari if it was designed in Italy but made in a different Country or would your buy a Swiss designed watch that was made in China? I know BMW produce most of thier cars elsewhere in South Africa and save the local production in Baveria for thier Flagship 7 seriers and M seriers.

Jez wrote:

I'm of the same opinion to an extent. Parts made elsewhere sure. As a flagship brand though it's a little borderline. Would you buy a Ferrari if it was designed in Italy but made in a different Country or would your buy a Swiss designed watch that was made in China? I know BMW produce most of thier cars elsewhere in South Africa and save the local production in Baveria for thier Flagship 7 seriers and M seriers.

Wrong. BMW produces all their "traditional" car programs (1 series, 3 series, 5 series, 7 series) in Germany. The SUVs are produced in the US and in Germany, the Z4 roadster is produced in the US. No BMW that you can buy in Germany is made anywhere in Africa or Asia. 

Jez wrote:

Beoboiinoz wrote:

 

Same with a Beovision 8-40 - made somewhere in Asia, not Struer I a believe (?).  

 

#1 I think it's made in the factory they set up in The Czech Republic, i'm not 100% sure on that.

#2 My point is why then don't they make more products aimed at a slightly cheaper price point? I'm not saying cheapen the brand by making throw away items and manufacture everything in China but I believe BeoVision 8, BeoTime and BeoSound 8 are big sellers. I can't imagine BV4 103" and 85" will sell like hotcakes.

#3 Smaller items like BS 8, headphones or maybe offering people who by a BV8 a speaker package! Like if you buy a BV8 you can get 4 BL4's and a BL11 sub for a package price that is far cheaper than buying them all separate.

#1 It is  made in the Czech Republic. but still a great product. 🤒

#2 If B&O did´nt make those big, provocative and expencive products what would the brand be then ??? A brand like that has to have big "dream" products. Take for example Audi.... would they sell allot af the A3/A4 series. if they didn´t have the A6/A8 or the R8?...

#3 I agree on that. They allready had a similar "bargain" where they gave 25% discount on BL4000/6000/8000 speakers for a period of time. But the package discount would be a seller allso 😕

Karel Uyttendaele wrote:

An answering machine? Who's still using a landline? Dished mine 5y ago!

What would be innovative is making the BeoCom 5 VoIP (=100% SIP compatible) without the need of a ATA. That would be a hit! Not only in the domestic market but also on the corporate market!

What I miss with the BEOCOM 5 is the Caller identification. Mine does not show who is calling - a feature every cheap phone can do. The VOIP is no big deal for me as I already have an ATA. 

An answering machine as feature in Beocom5 would be nice as well

Heribert wrote:

What I miss with the BEOCOM 5 is the Caller identification. Mine does not show who is calling - a feature every cheap phone can do. The VOIP is no big deal for me as I already have an ATA. 

An answering machine as feature in Beocom5 would be nice as well

Isn't the caller ID based on your phone provider not the phone itself?  

I haven't got rid of my home phone as I love having a fixed line and a mobile, maybe it's a luxury now a days lol.  I also like having an answering machine.  I have no interest in VOIP.  What's an ATA?

Michael wrote:

I haven't got rid of my home phone as I love having a fixed line and a mobile, maybe it's a luxury now a days lol.  I also like having an answering machine.  I have no interest in VOIP.  What's an ATA?

You can use an ATA to connect the Beoline 2 to the Internet Router. It more or less translates the telephone signal into a VOIP signal. Since I have the Beocom5 I use mainly VOIP. The connections are very good and cost much less then normal calls over the landline.

didole wrote:

Jez wrote:

I'm of the same opinion to an extent. Parts made elsewhere sure. As a flagship brand though it's a little borderline. Would you buy a Ferrari if it was designed in Italy but made in a different Country or would your buy a Swiss designed watch that was made in China? I know BMW produce most of thier cars elsewhere in South Africa and save the local production in Baveria for thier Flagship 7 seriers and M seriers.

Wrong. BMW produces all their "traditional" car programs (1 series, 3 series, 5 series, 7 series) in Germany. The SUVs are produced in the US and in Germany, the Z4 roadster is produced in the US. No BMW that you can buy in Germany is made anywhere in Africa or Asia. 

SORRY, this is what Wikipedia has to say:

Production by country

BMW also has local assembly operation using complete knock down components in Thailand, Russia, Egypt, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Chennai, India for 3, 5, 7 series and X3.

Jez wrote:

SORRY, this is what Wikipedia has to say:

LOL.  Who ever believes what wiki has to say.  A lecturer friend of mine loves giving D's on students assignments who quote Wiki as a reference.  

Australia used to do KDK (knock down kits) in other cars years ago.  My 1 series is made in Germany.  

The actual company site for you fellow BM fans may be of interest http://www.bmwgroup.com/e/nav/index.html?../0_0_www_bmwgroup_com/home/home.html&source=overview

Cheers

MH