moxxey wrote:

linder wrote:

I hope you do know that the late Steve Jobs, the CEO and founder of Apple replaced his $130,000 Mercedes SL55 AMG every 6 months.

And there was something I read recently where it said that the people who whine most of all about materialistic stuff are those people who want it most of all....but just can't afford it. It's envy but they don't even know it.

B&O is an ultra-luxury brand. It's always been that way. The images you see in the catalogue (the cars, the 5-star hotels, the people) are associated with ultra-luxury. If you don't want to see this, or you feel affected by these associations, B&O isn't a brand for you.

Well said!

Paul Winn wrote:

Ive bought B&O in the past but the sad thing is, would I recommend them to a really good friend? No way, i simply could not!  Sorry B&O but i've moved on. I find you overpriced, pretentious and you fail to deliver on performance! My B&O days are totally over and my life is nicer and more fun without them!

I don't mean any disrespect, but why are you here then??

Going back to the original topic, have you noticed the tech specs of all BeoLabs? The frequency responses are now all rated at -10 dB, and the figures are quite different from what we've been used to over the years.

Finally it makes sense to have BeoLab 7-6 delivering slightly more bass than the 7-2, simply because there's more cabinet volume.

Also, the 3500 is gone back to the original tech specs found in the service manuals, and the 4000 gives more bass than the 4 (which was the other way round so far in the specs)🙂

I have seen this online catalogue, and I picked the paper version (international english... I made a mistake and did not take the French one) at my dealer, and...

The Paper catalogue is different!!!

(no, don't be too excited, there are no new products on the paper one... Copyright info states : February 2011!!!)

But : there are not so much cars on the paper version (only Audi+Aston, not BMW and AMG), and a little bit more "special people telling their special life" things.

Strange, isn't it?

Mbee, you have to look more carefully.

I have the french paper catalog and the bmw and mercedes are in it (wich is good).

BS 9000 is still here as stated.

Gregory

mbee wrote:

I have seen this online catalogue, and I picked the paper version (international english... I made a mistake and did not take the French one) at my dealer, and...

The Paper catalogue is different!!!

(no, don't be too excited, there are no new products on the paper one... Copyright info states : February 2011!!!)

But : there are not so much cars on the paper version (only Audi+Aston, not BMW and AMG), and a little bit more "special people telling their special life" things.

Strange, isn't it?

Strange indeed: on my printed version (English), there are Audi, Aston Martin, BMW and Mercedes-AMG, and the copyright says October 2011. There's only one customer & dealer story (the dealer being Peter and the client is the Nielsen family).

I do also have another paper catalogue from earlier this year, copyright February 2011, which has more customer stories, and also Beovision 8 and BeoSound 3200 in it. On the cover of this catalogue is a photo of the BV7-55" with the lady playing the piano. On the cover of the October 2011 catalogue there is the BeoVision 4-85" with a man playing a guitar...

So mbee, it seems you did not pick up the latest paper catalogue...

 

Chrisreunion wrote:

Going back to the original topic, have you noticed the tech specs of all BeoLabs? The frequency responses are now all rated at -10 dB, and the figures are quite different from what we've been used to over the years.

Finally it makes sense to have BeoLab 7-6 delivering slightly more bass than the 7-2, simply because there's more cabinet volume.

Also, the 3500 is gone back to the original tech specs found in the service manuals, and the 4000 gives more bass than the 4 (which was the other way round so far in the specs)🙂

Yes, the Effective Frequency Ranges have changed for all of the speakers (either lowest frequency, highest frequency, or both). Examples:

BeoLab 3: 50 - 23.000 Hz

BeoLab 4: 55 - 33,300 Hz

BeoLab 5: 18 - 21,800 Hz

BeoLab 9: 28 - 29,000 Hz

BeoLab 6000: 47 - 24.000 Hz

and so on.

All are measured at "-10 dB re. Ref level (200 - 2,000 Hz)"

So is it simply a matter of measuring the response differently, or have there been updates to the speakers themselves? Some changes in the figures are quite notable...

 

moxxey wrote:

B&O is an ultra-luxury brand. It's always been that way. The images you see in the catalogue (the cars, the 5-star hotels, the people) are associated with ultra-luxury. If you don't want to see this, or you feel affected by these associations, B&O isn't a brand for you.

I would prefer a statement by B&O like that: B&O is  a quality brand for people with good taste (Some can afford a pair of Beolab 5, some "only" a pair of used Beovox Penta)

I don't mind luxury, but I mind too much of bling bling. (more beocom 5 than becom 2 type)

iPoditiv owning some B&O items not for luxury but for usability

 

moxxey wrote:

Looks good to me. Who said that this catalogue wasn't much different from the previous year? Looks quite different to me!

+1!

 

Much better indeed!

 

But.

 

How can a brand like B&O offer the Beocenter 2, a DVD player! Shouldn't this marvelous piece of design have gotten an update to Blue Ray already??? Or skip the whole thing? Who would buy it at present? 

KMA wrote:

Chrisreunion wrote:

Going back to the original topic, have you noticed the tech specs of all BeoLabs? The frequency responses are now all rated at -10 dB, and the figures are quite different from what we've been used to over the years.

Finally it makes sense to have BeoLab 7-6 delivering slightly more bass than the 7-2, simply because there's more cabinet volume.

Also, the 3500 is gone back to the original tech specs found in the service manuals, and the 4000 gives more bass than the 4 (which was the other way round so far in the specs)🙂

Yes, the Effective Frequency Ranges have changed for all of the speakers (either lowest frequency, highest frequency, or both). Examples:

BeoLab 3: 50 - 23.000 Hz

BeoLab 4: 55 - 33,300 Hz

BeoLab 5: 18 - 21,800 Hz

BeoLab 9: 28 - 29,000 Hz

BeoLab 6000: 47 - 24.000 Hz

and so on.

All are measured at "-10 dB re. Ref level (200 - 2,000 Hz)"

So is it simply a matter of measuring the response differently, or have there been updates to the speakers themselves? Some changes in the figures are quite notable...

 

Interesting...

 

Specially the Beolab5. Anyone with more info?