elephant wrote:

Interesting point on good looking.

What is good looking in a TV ?

I am sure many like me would say flat and invisible.

However I have lived the Avants - both old and new !

What I meant is, that (imo) making thinner and thinner displays (just because you can) is not a main point for me.

Since I don't 'carry or move around' my 55" plus tv, it doesn't matter if it is 2 mm or 2 cm....

....as long as it isn't as bulky as the old BV7, I'll be happy ;-)

A  'flat' tv/display, that is 55" plus will never be 'invisible' anyway - no matter how flat it is!

Designwise B&O will have to come up with something harmonious.

The proportions of the display and the speaker(s) (and the space for the electronics) will have to match - no matter if built as a unity or as seperate parts.

A thin black frameless 'plate' on the wall with a loudspeaker, that reaches 7-8 cm from the wall, isn't harmonious.

The main reason that 99% of the current tv can be as flat as a pancake - and look good -  is, that there are no (or almost) no speaker(s) built-in.

And most of them aren't that flat in real life, because of the part on the back with the connections etc.

Don't forget that the 'thickness' of the new Avant was used for the woofer on the back!

As I wrote above - the guys in Struer (in this case the designers) have made stunning solutions before.

I trust (well....and I hope) that they will come up with something extraordinary this time/2017 too.

P.S.   'a good looking tv' - I don't think that 'people' will ever agree on, what that is.

So the above is just my 1 and 1/2 cents.

MM

elephant wrote:

Which is where an outboard remote beo(video)system 5 box and a cupboard full of attached accessories would come into its own.

Instead I suspect this rumoured sound bar will be the box and support only a few discrete accessories eg ATV Chromecast etc. BeoNut since '75

I strongly hope they just get the panel from LG and not the softwareplatform.

We have a 55" inch OLED TV from LG and the picture beats every other TV (yes, including B&O) in terms of quality, natural saturation, black levels etc. In dark scenes you could even think that the TV is off because black is really black. :-)

BUT: The operation is too slow. It's awfully when you want to enter menus to adjust s.th. or read the info menu about what's playing etc. I can not understand how companies give us such slow user interfaces in the year 2016! LG is not the only one, to be fair.

I hope the Beovision wil be super responsive, too.

Millemissen wrote:

What I meant is, that (imo) making thinner and thinner displays (just because you can) is not a main point for me.

Since I don't 'carry or move around' my 55" plus tv, it doesn't matter if it is 2 mm or 2 cm....

....as long as it isn't as bulky as the old BV7, I'll be happy ;-)

A  'flat' tv/display, that is 55" plus will never be 'invisible' anyway - no matter how flat it is!

Yes. That's my main issue with the TVs of today. I wish that some day there will be a technology available that makes it possible to avoid the "big black hole" effect of a switched-off LED TV.

henrik wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

What I meant is, that (imo) making thinner and thinner displays (just because you can) is not a main point for me.

Since I don't 'carry or move around' my 55" plus tv, it doesn't matter if it is 2 mm or 2 cm....

....as long as it isn't as bulky as the old BV7, I'll be happy ;-)

A  'flat' tv/display, that is 55" plus will never be 'invisible' anyway - no matter how flat it is!

Yes. That's my main issue with the TVs of today. I wish that some day there will be a technology available that makes it possible to avoid the "big black hole" effect of a switched-off LED TV.

The Samsung Serif has "Like pulling a curtain over the screen, the user interface applies a filter over the content, giving an abstract impression of what is going on behind. When ‘curtain mode’ is active, viewers can access simple services such as a clock, Bluetooth speakers, apps and their photo gallery."

a screen saver curtain, but it's not there when switched off.

KMA wrote:

Interesting titbit (perhaps it has been mentioned before):

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1452014161

The new LG G6 and E6 OLED televisions have been designed by Torsten Valeur of David Lewis Designers:

"The Signature products have been designed by Torsten Valeur, and the idea is to create simple and minimalistic products that are simple and intuitive to use."

No, unfortunately it's not correct.

Torsten Valeur did contribute to the design in LG Signature, but not the TV's.

We did an interview with him right after the announcement at CES in Las vegas, where he told us about the design project.

But he designed home appliances for the LG Signature (like a refrigerator and a washing machine).

  /Lars

Lars Ladingkaer wrote:

No, unfortunately it's not correct.

Torsten Valeur did contribute to the design in LG Signature, but not the TV's.

We did an interview with him right after the announcement at CES in Las vegas, where he told us about the design project. But he designed home appliances for the LG Signature (like a refrigerator and a washing machine) .

/Lars

Editor in Chief, recordere.dk Danish online magazine for consumer electronics

KMA wrote:

Ah, okay. Then the FlatPanelsHD article mentions Torsten in the wrong context.

That, and I thought the speaker grille in the E6 had a similarity to Avant's center channel's grille – the horisontal stripes 😁

Have you watched the interviews of Torsten on YouTube, where he talks about his design collaboration with LG?

Yes, and here's our own short interview: 

I've just sold my Avant (got a fairly good price) and ordered the new Loewe OLED. I've had lots of Loewe's in the past and been very happy with them. As it's not out until September I've purchased an LG OLED as an interim, have to say compared to the Avant it's pretty impressive. I agree the interface isn't as good as teh B&O but hopefully the Loewe will address this, however the picture is on another level in comparison.

Interested to see what the next B&O TV's are capable of.