Emil Jensen wrote:

It is just two different products, a Beosound Stage customer I dont see as a Eclipse customer, and the other way around. If you do not need a great stand option, PUC, and surround processor, then the stage is interesting, if you do need it, the Eclipse is.

Not necessarily. You're suggesting a very limited audience if you suggest people go for the C9. My view is, especially with an Eclipse v2 forthcoming, the current Eclipse will be much cheaper soon, either pre-loved, ex-demo or a combo of elements. You could simply trade-in/sell your existing TV.

I just think it's a right old 'faff' to go buy an LG TV, separate soundbar, then go to your dealer to order a BeoRemote, connect them up, just to save a few bucks. I think people are being too simplistic about it - the soundbar in the design I'd want is still close to £2000.

Reading between the lines.

While I understand that B&O is focussing the attention on the BeoSound Stage being its first soundbar, I see the important distinction in naming it a "BeoSound" rather than a "BeoLab." With its nice price point and design, I can see the Stage as being an attractive multiroom replacement for the BeoSound 35 and BeoPlay A6. I could see this looking gorgeous by itself on a wall in a dining room or bedroom - without a TV screen.

It's noticeably missing from its specs that an Essence Wall Remote is not listed for control. I can see the reason for this perhaps being that it might create confusion as to how an essence remote could be relevant when the Stage is being used as a TV soundbar. However, it seems logical that an essence remote could be paired via BT to control the Stage for use as a multiroom audio product.

I'm still not clear on whether Deezer is being supported or not.

1990 wrote:

moxxey wrote:

Won't be cheap to purchase a C9 + Stage + BeoRemote. You might as well look at an Eclipse if you're going that way.

At current prices it would be 1.600 + 1.500 + 260 = 3.360. Same as the list price of a Horizon 40" with easel stand.

Seriously contemplating upgrading from my V1/Essence-II-combo to a Stage+LG solution. Just wait and see what STB come up with...

According to my opinion the comparison is not totally "fair" cause with the Horizon you get a proper surround system where you can connect more Beolabs. Same stand with the V1. I own one and I use it as a surround system (V1 has connected onto it a pair of beolabs 18, beolab 2, and a pair of beovox cx100) when I watch a movie on my projector. If I switch to a C9 with a Stage I do not have this possibility and I strongly believe you should think twice before upgrading to the c9+stage solution. That is of course if you like watching movies/series at your home. Otherwise is a very good solution.

It will likely be able to controlled by the new remote device supposedly coming soon (ish)....so I'm not fretting about that aspect.

beojeff wrote:

Reading between the lines.

While I understand that B&O is focussing the attention on the BeoSound Stage being its first soundbar, I see the important distinction in naming it a "BeoSound" rather than a "BeoLab." With its nice price point and design, I can see the Stage as being an attractive multiroom replacement for the BeoSound 35 and BeoPlay A6. I could see this looking gorgeous by itself on a wall in a dining room or bedroom - without a TV screen.

It's noticeably missing from its specs that an Essence Wall Remote is not listed for control. I can see the reason for this perhaps being that it might create confusion as to how an essence remote could be relevant when the Stage is being used as a TV soundbar. However, it seems logical that an essence remote could be paired via BT to control the Stage for use as a multiroom audio product.

I'm still not clear on whether Deezer is being supported or not.

From what I have read there are no sources in Stage, so it has to rely on that you play something on another B&O multiroom product. The other option is of course Airplay or Chromecast.

So not a real substitute for e.g BS35 or Beoplay A6 as I view it.

I guess they save the sources for the rumored more advanced "soundbar".

Tassos wrote:

According to my opinion the comparison is not totally "fair" cause with the Horizon you get a proper surround system where you can connect more Beolabs. Same stand with the V1. I own one and I use it as a surround system (V1 has connected onto it a pair of beolabs 18, beolab 2, and a pair of beovox cx100) when I watch a movie on my projector. If I switch to a C9 with a Stage I do not have this possibility and I strongly believe you should think twice before upgrading to the c9+stage solution. That is of course if you like watching movies/series at your home. Otherwise is a very good solution.

I understand your point! But since it's my bedroom setup, I don't have surround sound planned :-)

The whole thought that customers would have to go the MediaMarkt to get an LG tv is not really valid imho. B&O-retailers wil already stock other C9-variants; the 65" and 77" will be needed for the Harmony. Why not get some 55"s as well to sell in a combo-pack with the BS Stage, at say 3.500 euro? Must be a market for that.

On another point: the Aluminium and Bronze-versions will be sold through non-B&O-dealers as well. So the Stage will be offered in high street stores next to the soundbars from Sonos/LG etc. 

DMacri wrote:

I’m not sure people don’t see what you get as much as they don’t place that much value in the features for the cost of obtaining them from B&O lately.

 

 

If you could point to the exceptional quality and rock solid, bug-free operation, you could possibly make a case. The software and operational quirks have let them down.

 

 

If the repair and service was able to quickly and cost effectively provide repairs, that would help, too. Recent products don’t seem to be easily or cost effectively repaired compared to the asking price of them.

 

 

I’m hoping the stage can win many hearts and new customers in ways that very expensive, but somewhat unreliable products simply cannot. Those that can afford those products also expect them to be worthwhile. Pretty, complex, expensive, and functionally challenged is not a winning combination.

Don't mean to go too far off topic here, but I think you're painting with too broad of a brush.  While what you say is true of many recent B&O products, my Eclipse has been rock solid and reliable from day 1 in my home (almost 2 years ago).  No goofy quirks.  Nothing flaky.  It simply does what it is supposed to do.  No explaining to the family that it's perfectly "normal" to have to reboot/power cycle/disconnect the mains/re-register the remote/re-register the wifi to make my really expensive device to work as seems to be the case with some other recent products.

Back on topic:  This looks really good, and the price is nice (for B&O).  Let's hope B&O's quality stumbles are behind them, and this brings some new customers to the brand (or some old customers back).

Stan

The BANG & OLUFSEN stores are going to deal the 55" C9 OLED,

So you can pick up everything from your local B&O store.

B&O stores are going to be LG dealers.

Anything else would be ridicolous.

Having some on display and ordering asap is no problem.

Of course there are people, who ‘run around looking for the best price’ for both items and buys a preused BROne.......they must find their way to set up things on their own.

MM

beojeff wrote:

Reading between the lines.

However, it seems logical that an essence remote could be paired via BT to control the Stage for use as a multiroom audio product.

Yes, the Essence Remote can be paired over Bluetooth with the Beosound Stage