Like no one else. Congratulations B&O!

PK wrote:

i like it! the harmony looks like a B&O tv. no other brand could make this design. 

Or maybe no-one else is bonkers enough to bother (and to promote for €18K) at a time when dealers need products they can sell in their stores to your average end user.

I honestly cannot understand why people think awkward-looking speaker mechanism sat on top of a standard LG TV makes for a stunning design. Even if I liked it - which I don't - I'd be bored after watching it open up/close, after 3 or 4 times.

Sandyb wrote:

The B&O sound bar is supposed to be fairly limited in its scope - look at the price Roger posted earlier - and from my understanding, a simple stereo only product, not designed to be integrated into a broader B&O ecosystem (it won't see your other BL speakers).

The equivalent of a Beosystem 5 / Centre channel (i.e. a much more fully rounded product) - in the works, but not until end of year / early next.

Depending on its execution, that later product should please a bunch of people.

There are reasons to believe it will play nice more easily with LG tv's compared to other brands, but that will become clearer over time.

May not be a bad outcome at all.

moxxey wrote:

Or maybe no-one else is bonkers enough to bother (and to promote for €18K) at a time when dealers need products they can sell in their stores to your average end user.

Sandyb wrote:

The B&O sound bar is supposed to be fairly limited in its scope - look at the price Roger posted earlier - and from my understanding, a simple stereo only product, not designed to be integrated into a broader B&O ecosystem (it won't see your other BL speakers).

The equivalent of a Beosystem 5 / Centre channel (i.e. a much more fully rounded product) - in the works, but not until end of year / early next.

Depending on its execution, that later product should please a bunch of people.

There are reasons to believe it will play nice more easily with LG tv's compared to other brands, but that will become clearer over time.

May not be a bad outcome at all.

I'll be quite happy with my current dual-HDMI with BeoSystem 4 solution to wait a year then. I just hope that B&O sees that it's time to support Dolby Atmos -- which the Harmony still does not. With the prevalence of Atmos content now (we see it everywhere: UHD, Apple TV iTunes movies, Netflix, etc.), it's hard not to notice that B&O leaves users without a key feature in terms of sound.

Sandyb wrote:

now young man, dont give up in the quest to go ever larger!

As a fellow BV12 owner, I've done the measurements of a 77 OLED (ok, Wallpaper version, but still) vs the 12-65.

It's not noticeably taller really - it is more obviously wider though.

But all told, its not night and day on my wall.

So a C9 77 is do-able.

Not the Harmony though, that's a true monster...

Same here, I measured, and if/when my 65 inch Panasonic VT dies, I can easily go to a 77 inch. With an 85 inch, I'd have to mount it too high considering the cabinets I have under it. The center of the screen would be too high, I'd have to look up to it, not a good thing for long viewing if you want to avoid a crick in your neck. And even something like the Eclipse wouldn't fit without a lot of rearranging that would destroy the look I worked on, doubly or triply so for this monster.

beojeff wrote:

Sandyb wrote:

The B&O sound bar is supposed to be fairly limited in its scope - look at the price Roger posted earlier - and from my understanding, a simple stereo only product, not designed to be integrated into a broader B&O ecosystem (it won't see your other BL speakers).

The equivalent of a Beosystem 5 / Centre channel (i.e. a much more fully rounded product) - in the works, but not until end of year / early next.

Depending on its execution, that later product should please a bunch of people.

There are reasons to believe it will play nice more easily with LG tv's compared to other brands, but that will become clearer over time.

May not be a bad outcome at all.

I'll be quite happy with my current dual-HDMI with BeoSystem 4 solution to wait a year then. I just hope that B&O sees that it's time to support Dolby Atmos -- which the Harmony still does not. With the prevalence of Atmos content now (we see it everywhere: UHD, Apple TV iTunes movies, Netflix, etc.), it's hard not to notice that B&O leaves users without a key feature in terms of sound.

Fair point - I hadn't thought much about Atmos.

Agree that there's a decent amount of content now, though I'm not too bothered by it.

5.1 with my Beolabs is plenty fab as it is, but I can see why others may want Atmos.

My Dealer told me the 77" Version is just the first Product, a 65" Beovision Harmony will follow ...

I hope so ...

Thomas

moxxey wrote:

kuyttendaele wrote:

There's a big difference between a 55" and a 77" :-)

Both in size and weight. I'll never ever be able to get my BV12-65 off the wall on my own. It required 3 people to install originally. It's huge.

The 65" takes up most of my sitting room wall. No idea how I'd fit a 77" in my apartment (and it's 1500 sq ft).

Interesting, is the BL12 that much heavier than the Panasonic version. I managed to get mine on the way with just my wife's help, which is to say not much help. 🙂 As for weight, they seem to get lighter all the time, my 65 weighs just a bit more than my old 42 inch. My old Proton 31 inch tube set weighed 272 lbs!