Beofan53 wrote:

Thanx John for the review. I do not have a V1, but your reviews were a pleasure to read. Professional and objective. Well done! This is what a forum should be.

Thank you too Beofan53 for your most kind comments.

If you were to purchase a V1, should you have a need, I doubt you'd be disappointed!

I agree, a forum should be a resource of helpful comment and opinion and constructive criticism where necessary.

Sometimes though, I get the feeling criticism of B&O here is less than constructive, and whilst I agree totally that B&O is not perfect, I'm not sure that such criticism helps  - whereas constructive criticism is another matter.

I also feel sometimes, that some members are unaware of B&O's contributions to the world of HiFi re R&D and their overall technical excellence, and having made the mistake myself of having deemed them as being mere lifestyle systems for the rich and ignorant, I have learnt through my aforementioned audiophool experiences, and extensive personal research, that this is not at all the case - B&O are at the cutting edge when it comes to loudspeaker design in particular and the room/loudspeaker interface, coupled with the study of psych-acoustics.

As such, I feel that is something well worth mentioning in any discussion of B&O - they're far from average HiFi in a pretty designer frock!

Kind regards

John... 

Hubbe wrote:

Flappo wrote:

New review of V1 on line , usual disparaging remarks by the great uneducated although they do acknowledge the superb picture and sound . Isn't that what really matters on a tv after all ?

http://www.wired.com/reviews/2012/07/bang-olufsen-beoplay-v1/

I can´t take that kind of reviews seriously no matter what they review. The reviewer has already made up her/his mind from the very start about the product. I´ve seen it countless of times in reviews about cars, motorbikes, electronics etc.

I think that buyers of more expensive gears looks for reviews elsewhere than in this kind of magazines. The reviewer of this article pointed out from the very start how expensive the V1 is in the most exaggerating  way before he continued to write down the product. Let´s face it, the Bang Olufsen remotes has always been easy to operate. The Beo4 is no exception from that legacy. The reviewer does not exactly review the product in my opinion.

And John, thank you again for more nice opinions about your new buy. Will most likely join you within a couple of weeks.

I also read the review in question, and agree with your comments.  I also thought it was arrogant and patronising as well, and garnered the opinion that perhaps the writer had the B&O remote lodged firmly in his fundamental orifice, whilst writing the review.

Thank you also for you kind comments about my review - I doubt you'd be disappointed in a V1 as regards sound and picture - albeit there are undoubtedly nicer B&O TV's further up the range, but of course at considerably greater prices.  For what it costs, I find the V1 fantastic VFM and worth every cent I paid for it IMHO.

Kind Regards

John... 😐

Chris Townsend wrote:

Some people know the price of everything, but the value of nothing.

 

I could not possibly agree more

When working in retail electrical/electronics, it was sad to see so many people choosing objects to adorn their living rooms, and to be used as an adjunct to their lifestyle, on purely price grounds.  Many were largely uninformed technically and were easily mislead by either well meaning, or otherwise deceitful salespeople chasing their commissions.  I once overheard a salesman flogging a Yamaha system at the time, telling the customers it sounded better than the opposition, because the amplifier had more 'magniticity' - I kid you not!

If you don't exercise discernment,  and only buy on price, you will likely fill your home with cheap dross which will still cost you, and if it doesn't satisfy you, then it could be argued the entire cost of it was a total waste of money.

Again the old adage - buy right, buy once; buy cheap, buy twice.

Kind regards

John.. 😐

gennaro wrote:

Excellent review!!! Honest writing, standing ovation... Lol

 

I'm ordering a 40" in white for the kitchen.

Thank you very much Gennaro for your most kind comments.

I think you'll be very happy with a V1 - the white is a stunning shade - neither a 'blue' white, or an overly warm/beige white, but a beautiful 'eggshell' white.

I find the picture and sound truly excellent.

On all acoustic music (classical and jazz) I find the system well able to play plenty loud enough to fill a medium size room (5 x 4 metre) with no troubles.

On electronic music, with heavy bass, it can again fill a medium room with sound - however I'd opinion that it'll not likely take head banging or party levels without excessive strain upon the bass unit - it is after all a TV and has a single 4" unit to provide bass.  However at sensible levels, I find the bass very balanced and integrated with the rest of the sound re midrange and treble.

My thoughts are that for general TV viewing, i.e. drama, news, movies etc, the sound is more than capable.  Playing back music CD's or computer files takes it to another level re clarity, dynamics etc.  For movie viewing, where it can double as a centre channel, I would say it will be excellent; any concerns about very high volume levels/strain in the bass will be ameliorated because the crossover will likely send lower bass to the main left and right speakers, and/or sub, which will allow the midrange and treble, and upper bass, to be even clearer and more dynamic than it already is.

I look forward to your comments when you get it, and congratulations on your purchase... 😕

If there's anything I can help you with re my experiences with my TV thus far, please feel free to ask...

Kind regards

John... 😐

I just want them t sort out the game lag then I'll be buying a 40" in black def.

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On my trawls through the various av forums on the web , only two tv brands consistently escaped any real condemnation ; panasonic and bang & olufsen !

In fact most people seemed to agree that while b&o left out all the crazy gimmicks like 3d , voice and motion control etc they left in what really matters - excellent picture & sound and solid build , oh and this time plenty of connections - 5 hdmis !!!

Sony's apparently suffer from excessive banding , samsung's have pixellation problems and poor backlights , toshiba's are unreliable and badly made , etc etc

The main complaint regarding b&o was always one thing - the price.

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I guess you get what you pay for. :)

Panasonic are on top as they've bought pioneer's old kuro tech. So that explains why they're suddenly flavour of the month .

I don't know why I bothered responding to this review (on the wired page), but if anybody agrees with me then feel free to vote me up - let's give the V1 a bit of support!

Jonathan

http://www.wired.com/reviews/2012/07/bang-olufsen-beoplay-v1/

Jonathan - happy to vote you up. But then I realised I need to do more - so added my own comments! Lets hope others do likewise.

jkhamler wrote:

I don't know why I bothered responding to this review (on the wired page), but if anybody agrees with me then feel free to vote me up - let's give the V1 a bit of support!

Jonathan

 

http://www.wired.com/reviews/2012/07/bang-olufsen-beoplay-v1/

Duly voted - an excellent rebuttal!.. 😕

Kind regards

John... 😐

Flappo wrote:

The main complaint regarding b&o was always one thing - the price.

Well, that stops them becoming a product for the masses and, let's be honest here, B&O TVs aren't really produced for the masses. None of us here want B&O TVs to be products for the masses, either.

I couldn't care less about the comments that non-B&O owners write underneath B&O reviews or news. I'm not going to say it's "jealousy", but there's a certain amount of reverse psychology behind some of the negative comments. Almost as if they diss the product to convince themselves that it's of no interest whatsoever. However, if you offered most of those negative commentators a free BV10-40, I bet the majority of them would accept the offer with open arms. Everyone always wants the "best" TV, but most people can only afford a run-of-the-mill Samsung, so they convince themselves that B&O are ridiculous, simply so they can reassure themselves that their top-of-the-range Samsung is the best you can get in the market. They don't like to think that it can be trumped by a BV10-40....that they can't afford.