My 24 hours with a Beolit 12

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Paul W wrote:

Chris i'm with you 100% on this issue.  Rednik you are wrong with your statement. When I buy my BeoPlay A8 I expect ABSOLUTE PERFECTION from it, just like I do when I buy a MacBook or a Paul Smith suit, Dolce&Gabbana suit or Audi A4. If the B&O doesn't perform, I will go absolutely mad!

When people buy a premium product, it is an absolute insult for it not to deliver 100% - especially in these recession times when everyone is working twice as hard!!!

Chris shouldn't have to buy an WiFi equipment just to get Airplay working when everything performs well! Our lives are far too busy to experience something that doesn't perform!!!  It makes me very angry when something doesn't do what it says on the tin!

I also used to expect absolute perfection from anything I bought, regardless of from whom, or where it was made.

The trouble is, perfection is an idea that doesn't really exist in the real world - perhaps maybe for a nanosecond, - until the pollutants in the air start to do their work and your perfect device is on it's inevitable path towards entropy.  And even worse things happen when you start to use it - it's on the inevitable path towards wearing out and is no longer 'perfect'!

The irony is, that mainstream mass produced items, made with little intervention from the human hand, are likely to be closer to 'perfect' re build quality and finish etc, than something relying on the vagaries of human interaction - remember the tales about a Monday or a Friday car on a production line? You don't hear that little tale much anymore because of CAD/CAM manufacturing, as robots can get it right, time after time after time in an manufacturing or assembly process.

I've come to accept that within the limitations of technology, nothing is 100% perfect; it's usually about finding the best balance of compromises to suit oneself.

For instance, CRT, LCD and Plasma TV's all have 'issues' or 'faults' relating to the limitations of the technology.  Perhaps OLED may be the saviour, and give us the 'perfect' picture, but that remains to be seen.

Meantime, one can obsessively look for and most assuredly find fault in everything - even oneself if you take a look in the mirror!

So, one inevitably has a choice of either accepting that some things are not 100% perfect because of technology limitations, and accepting that there will always be faults if you go out of your way to find them, and obsess and obsess and obsess and give yourself a huge amount of grief because something is not 'perfect', OR enjoy said product for what it offers, and enjoy it's highlights, rather than worrying over it's faults.

In most cases, the faults are actually quite small, but blown way out of proportion by an obsessive and arguably at times unhealthy viewpoint stressing out over a lack of absolute 'perfection' where none literally exists or is possible on a technical basis.

Wifi works, but is not as 'perfect' as in 100% reliable, as a cable connection.  Many large office corporations still use extensive LAN cable networks in preference to WiFi for reliability and security over the intranet.

If you want the convenience of WiFi, one has to accept a few inconveniences from time to time.

It is disappointing to hear that a new owner of a Beolit 12 is having WiFi connectivity issues - I've had similar issues with other bits and pieces of kit trying to join my home network from time to time.

Networking in itself is a big IT subject, and one I'm not totally familiar with, so that there is some difficulty from time to time is not at all surprising in the overall picture.

I'm sure the issue will be sorted, but with the greatest of respect, expecting or demanding absolute perfection in anything is a bit of an obsessive mistake in life IMHO - and speaking from personal experience - as it's rarely, if ever, achievable and one can almost make oneself ill trying to find it.

Kind regards

John... 😐

 

 

 

I absolutely agree, but the fly in the ointment is that everything else works 99% of the time at much greater distances. This only works within cable distance which kind of negates wireless! I'll wait until I can add an airport express! Apart from it not working, it's great :-/

Chris Townsend wrote:
I absolutely agree, but the fly in the ointment is that everything else works 99% of the time at much greater distances. This only works within cable distance which kind of negates wireless! I'll wait until I can add an airport express! Apart from it not working, it's great :-/

I trust that my post didn't come across as belittling your undoubted frustration, which I can will understand and to a degree relate to!

I  have not as yet succeeded in getting my new V1 to join either my All Apple WiFi network or the one from my Billion ADSL 2+ VOIP modem/router.

Like you, everything else connects to either network with no issues.

Next to try will be WPS and/or changing the PW protocol from WPA2, to WPA, and maybe even WEP to see if that makes a difference.

Meantime, it's connected by cable to my network, I've updated the software to the latest and downloaded a couple of PUC tables.

As I have an Apple TV, getting the V1 on the network re the media browser is not needed - it's just for SW updates and PUC's.

Putting all that aside, - this seemingly less than 100% perfect state, - I am enjoying it's sound and picture enormously, and the fact that I don't have a reliable Wifi connection is not the irritant that it otherwise could be if I focused on it obsessively, whilst ignoring all the other pleasure that I can get out of the set.

That's not to say that I don't want to fix it - I do - but it's not the be all and end all of the V1

I appreciate though that with Airplay, your situation is a little different, and accordingly much more frustrating.

If it's not a reception problem, it's likely to be something else perhaps, maybe a protocol or some sort of setting mismatch twixt router and Beolit 12?

Networking can be a real pain sometimes.... I'm sorry that I can't be  of more help...

Kind regards

John... 😐

 

 

Not all.

To be honest i've only recently mastered emails and porn, so changing protocols etc i'd better off calling in GCHQ! There are a lot of setting on the new router which i'm sure can help. My Beolit is currently working but i have had to put the router rather scuffily in the middle of the hall, with the Beolit on the end of a radiator! Even with line of site and a modern(ie crap) door to contend with, the reception is only marginal.

Listening to the soundtrack of the movie "The Way" If anyone rents this film and doesn't enjoy it, with a good bottle of Rioja, i'll payπŸ€’

ps spoke to soon, i stood up and the signal went😠

I have heard of a few people with this issue.  I also had some problems with drop-out.  Was a  dissapointed, but as I had already tried a zepplin air, which uses airplay, I was not surprised when the BeoLit12 suffered as well.

Got a better router... problem solved... rock solid now, even at the end of the garden.

Well, if it only works 10 feet away from the base station, it's possible you have a defective unit or one in which the wifi antenna was never connected inside. The antenna connections for wifi are about the size of a pin head, it wouldn't be the first time that someone had a laptop or phone, etc where it was not connected. Can your dealer lend you another unit to try?

Beolit on far left, router behind Beovision 10-46  9 paces away by window. Signal strength "marginal"!

ps yes i will paint that bloody Vulcan when i get round to it. Been saying that since DecemberErm..

Chris Townsend wrote:

Beolit on far left, router behind Beovision 10-46  9 paces away by window. Signal strength "marginal"!

One thought - have you made sure your router is using a different key than others in your area? A lot of routers come fixed with their key set to "1" or similar and a number of routers using the same wifi key can lead to a lot of connection issues.

I left it to auto s I'll check, thanks

You could also try broadcasting in n as well as g , reserving the n for the beolit. That should help with interference although n does have a shorter range.

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