mbolo01 wrote:

The Moment relies on a DLNA photo service that Minimserver does not offer, as simple as that.

Minimserver 2 has the option for showing Artists pictures (see the picture before! Beoliving shows the Artist pictures processed by Minimserver).

So NOT simple as that!

see below another picture now of the B&o app (pictures are coming from Minimserver)

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Note: these pictures I added myself to Minimserver!

Some additional remarks:

1. I used for a long time another workaround to show the Artist Pictures on the Moment. It works perfectly.

2. In the end, it is not a big issue to me! Maybe even no issue.

3. But still it would be interesting to find out if it could work (maybe it will, maybe it won't).

Yes it is a simple as that.

Moment is simply looking a BEOARTISTS folder from the root of the DLNA Photo server and image files inside must exactly match the album artist name metadata in order to use the image in the artist’s tile.

As a Moment software beta user, i have had many interaction with B&O on this front.

Even if Minimserver can expose the artist image, the Moment logic simply does not make use of it, like it is ignoring other useful metadata.

mbolo01 wrote:

As a Moment software beta user, i have had many interaction with B&O on this front.

You weren't the only one!

mbolo01 wrote:

Moment is simply looking a BEOARTISTS folder from the root of the DLNA Photo server and image files inside must exactly match the album artist name metadata in order to use the image in the artist’s tile.

Fine retelling me, but your explanation just opens an opportunity.

What if there is a way to trick the system in a way that the Moment looks in the right directory and Minimserver scans these picture also.

Maybe simple as that! That's what I'm searching for.

 

Carolpa wrote:

What if there is a way to trick the system in a way that the Moment looks in the right directory and Minimserver scans these picture also.

As a former beta user you should then understand that the Moment does not browse a file system directories but a DLNA Photo server directory of the SAME DLNA server servicing the music.

Unless Minimserver introduce a photo service (as suggested in this thread), I don’t really see what else you can trick, particularly on the Moment side.

mbolo01 wrote:

As a former beta user you should then understand that the Moment does not browse a file system directories but a DLNA Photo server directory of the SAME DLNA server servicing the music.

Unless Minimserver introduce a photo service (as suggested in this thread), I don’t really see what else you can trick, particularly on the Moment side.

Dutch sayings:

"Can't" lies on the graveyard and "Won't" lies next to him.

That is what I'm reading in your posts. Where is your positive attitude to reach, search, solve questions like these. 

 

Maybe we solve it together, maybe not........... but not see NEW opportunities and examen them .............

 

Carolpa wrote:

That is what I'm reading in your posts. Where is your positive attitude to reach, search, solve questions like these.

Maybe you should also read « pragmatism » in my posts ?

I’m a simple product end user with decent tech background, I don’t have the control of the Moment code, nor the Minimserver one, and my analysis conclusion is that there is nothing people like me can do to make the Moment think the Minimserver DLNA music server is also a photo DLNA server with a BEOARTISTS directory full of artists’ images, i guess you can understand that don’t you?

If I was a talented dev, I would write a multi platform proxy DLNA server to direct music and photo requests to appropriate DLNA servers, maybe it exists somewhere, I didn’t search and I also don’t want to invest more time in a divest product like the Moment which may also soon loose its Deezer compatibility (IFTTT is dropping Deezer as Deezer no longer publish its API which is maybe the sign of a coming change that will force third party vendor to adapt their code …. guess what for the Moment)

That said, I fully support your effort.

While I'm not a developer, but one might say that some of the tweaks that Moment customers are looking for shouldn't be that much of an efforts, if the dev team is still around. Another option which is far fetched would be to ask B&O to make either the full software or partial software open source which would allow for tweaks. Of course I can't see this happen, but who knows they've kind of tried a few hardware projects such as the HiFiBerry were they dipped their toes into the sharing and developing something for the community.

About the Moment, is there a Moment 2021 thread and is it worth trying to compile a priorities list of update request to be shared from multiply customers.Who knows, they might cave in (can always wish).

Going back to the MinimServer, it's up and running and doing so fine and I can live without the Artist images which was kind of nice and I just need to use the Bang Olufsen app a bit more which I very rarely use.

Question then again about the Moment Expert Mode; does it make sense to enable this for MinimServer?

Carolpa wrote:

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Looks much better with the customized icons compared with the stock icons that Bang Olufsen app shows by default which looks quite boring. So thanks for this showcase of the BnO app.

 

kimhav wrote:

Question then again about the Moment Expert Mode; does it make sense to enable this for MinimServer?

I used to leverage the Expert Mode to (1) get the control over Moment database refresh and to avoid continuous scanning of my music library (55 k tracks) triggered by Twonky default playlists updates (last played and most played) and (2) to manage my own artists images.

Minimserver does not have such playlists that gets updated each time you play, so without Expert Mode turned on, Moment updates would occur automatically only when your music library content changes (add/remove/change), unless Minimserver sends state changes when music is played, I haven’t tested it in depth on this front.

Thanks for confirming with regards to Expert Mode and MinimServer. Twonky constantly updating the playlists quickly killed the Moment so that was the only option to get it to work stable.

And to summarize the all the tweaking that can be done with MinimServer won't affect the Moment unit but will have an impact, for the better, on the BeoLiving and Bang Olufsen app.

The follow-up question is of course what config/settings are you using with MinimServer v2`? Since I'm still exploring the wealth of parameters and tweaks available for MinimServer this is what I'm currently running with:

indexTags = Albumartist, Artist, Date, Genre, All Artists, Composer
serverOptions = indexArtwork=folder

Added the Albumartist to have the index sort by Albumartist instead of Artist tag and then of course the indexArtwork tag which we already discussed in the thread.