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I sigh! I feel I’m now too old to really know what is what. Gaw’d – I’m just like my parents were 20 years ago.
I mean, look at the specs…of this Loewe compared to my BV7-40:-
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LO |
B&O |
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LCD size |
52 |
40 |
Cant fit anything bigger than a 42" in my lounge |
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Built-in HD Recorder |
Yes |
No |
If I watch Sky - too many repeats - why do I need this? EPG. See Sky |
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If I watch Freeview - too many repeats - why need do I need this? EPG. See Freeview. |
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Double tuner /PIP/PAP |
Yes |
No |
Use the remote to flick channels. Man thing, tried and tested. Works. Period! |
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Built-in DVB-T/DVB-S/DVB-C |
Yes |
Yes |
Have SD Freeview with DVB-T (Nothing else given to require more) |
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No |
No |
No manufacturer does internal Sky or Sky HD. Forced to use given STB |
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Built-in digital radio receiver |
Yes |
Yes |
Use DVB-T Freeview. Use BeoSound 5 with Masterlink. Seemless on both. |
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Built-in media player |
No |
Yes |
I think I still prefer the BeoSound 5 for that. |
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100 Hz technology |
No |
Yes |
Well I've had my BV7-40 for 3 years now. Was not available then. |
At the party or not, in the UK most of us have a choice essentially of Sky or Freeview. There are no integral cards for Sky by ANY TV manufacturer and Freeview is limited to SD at the moment (although HD channels may be coming soon).
Further, with the constant daily, weekly and monthly repeats of all the content, I’m not sure why anyone needs to record anything. Also, how smart is it to buy a BR module with a DVD recording facility. I mean… buy high-def playback and SD recording???
I won’t even get started on the materials of construction.
Whilst I’m on a rant-march, lets look at a few other comparisons. And I apologise for comparing them all to a BV7-40.
1. The Avant. Great machine, but sorry, the BeoLab 7 in terms of sound just blows it clean away.
2. The Avant. Great Machine, but sorry, the DVD and it’s operating system is practically the same in the BV7.
3. The Avant. Great machine, ditto the sound card.
4. The Avant. Great machine, great picture, best of all time. But have most of us moved on to larger screens? I mean, does that DVD movie in 16:9 really look cinematic in the Avant or what? Sadly no.
So ultimately, I’m still left with my blinkered opinions, more money than sense and a crappy/useless BV7-40. I am sure picture technology will develop and that B&O will play a little catch-up for a more reasonable price, but once again, I see a vast array of so-called features and technology bundled into a box which is now challenging the size of my main living room wall in my 2-up, 2-down and that thanks to a bi-poly of Sky and Freeview, I have little need for anything else. Have I missed anything really useful or meaningful?
Good day to you all,
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"the integration of DVB-S2 (hi def sat tv), Recorder, EPG is perfect! You can even update your TV software via USB stick yourself...."
All this is true and you are not mention the WLAN connection -, but the B&O design is much better
People will make their own choice between features and design (or in the case of Loewe maybe a slight compromise). Of course design differs with each model, it is entirely feasible that the next Loewe will be drop dead gorgeous leaving only the B&O system integration as a usp.
Lets all hope the BV7 MKIV lifts the bar considerably.
"Further, with the constant daily, weekly and monthly repeats of all the content, I’m not sure why anyone needs to record anything."
10%,
I use the recording facility (in my case Tivo) to record content for plyback when I want to watch, not according to a schedule. I can no longer watch live TV. Given the recorded, commercial-free alternative, it is much too painful.
I use the recording facility (in my case Tivo) to record content for plyback when I want to watch, not according to a schedule. I can no longer watch live TV. Given the recorded, commercial-free alternative, it is much too painful.
Seconded. I have now had for more than three years a Linux-based DVB recorder. I no more watch *anything* live from commercial channels. Even if I'm at home when a movie starts, I just click to record it and start 15-30 minutes later, skipping over all the commercials. That's 15 minutes of my life saved for better purposes (of course, more would be saved if I skipped those crappy movies entirely, but...).
In the age of digital broadcasts, the recording is technically an easy task, and quality degradation is a round zero. I don't think there's much excuse for the lack of this feature in a high-end TV set.
i made a vow not to comment on beo-tv threads anymore...
but the concept of a dvr (built in or otherwise) is the greatest thing in human history since the wheel.
This looks good, doesn't it?
The new Loewe Reference 52
Could alos be Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba or Philips. They all look similar. Could never be comnpared to B&O though. What B&O speaker looks like that? The only thing in that picture that looks vaguely copmparable to my setup is the table, that looks like my Acacia table. That's it. So pleased for everyone that has bought a Loewe but thank God I haven't. I want to be different, surely the whole essence of buying into B&O. Apparently not for many, but definitly for me.
Simon.
I would disagree - it looks distinctive and is impressively featured (see attached).
Is it as nice as a BV7 - that's a personal opinion, is it a challenger in the market - I would think so unless the MKIV is something really special.
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