Sandyb wrote:

Fair point, I hadn't read much reference to whether boot camp will be replicated in some form. The new Windows ARM PC's have been a bit of a mess from what I understand, but they do run windows. Not an expert here. I only run Mac apps, and Office stuff on the Mac OS is fine.

Not sure how old you are Sandy, but I remember Windows virtualisation on the PPC, before the Intel days, back in the late 90s, and it was literally the worst thing ever - it felt like you had to wait for the mouse pointer to move! So slow. Once the Intel move came about in 2006, this made a huge difference to running Windows virtually on a Mac.

Yeah, I have Windows in Parallels running simultaneously and switch between the two. On an iMac, Windows 10 feels native. Barely any slowdown at all.

Whatever happened to the new iMac due March and then 'around WWDC' though is a mystery. Was waiting for this to upgrade (I have a 16" MBP, which isn't ideal - prefer the 5K iMac. I sold my old one before the big move in March to the States, which didn't end up happening due to the travel ban).

Back to the original topic though. I guess no-one has any ideas on any new speakers coming soon?

Best forget a Horizon MK2....and wait for something better ;-)

If you mean ‘new speakers on the Horizon’....I would not be that sure, that there is none coming!

MM

Millemissen wrote:

If you mean ‘new speakers on the Horizon’....I would not be that sure, that there is none coming!

I was told there was a BL3 replacement coming back in early 2019. Never seemed to get released.

I know people will shout this down, but I think the number of people wanting new standalone expensive stereo speakers is becoming smaller and smaller and, sadly, with the current climate, even smaller again. I'm not saying there's no demand, but most people either have what they want or can get what they want. So the demand is small. As finances at B&O must be awfully tight dealing with reduced sales from covid-19, their focus is almost certainly going to be on what sells in big numbers and that would be consumer items such as a soundbar, headphones and mono speakers.

I really don't expect to see too much at all this year. Maybe early next?

I also saw this! i quite like the color as well. Still keeping my hopes up for new product releases though

The beolab 17, 18 and 19 have been announced in 2013, can we at least expect a MK2 version after 7 years ???? Any information on this ? 

moxxey wrote:

I was told there was a BL3 replacement coming back in early 2019. Never seemed to get released.

Aussie Michael wrote:

I was also told that too. Maybe even earlier but it must have been sidelined for the Edge, Stage, etc

The irony for me with the Stage is that it won't allow a wisa connection to another B&O speaker. Such a shame. Would have been a huge opportunity for someone like me to build on their GX + Stage + BeoRemote and add a sub or a couple of BL3 replacements. Would widen the Stage experience.

moxxey wrote:

As finances at B&O must be awfully tight dealing with reduced sales from covid-19, their focus is almost certainly going to be on what sells in big numbers

Yes, it is expensive to develop different loudspeaker for different use-cases like B&O is doing it, and only big numbers will help to handle the overhead costs.
For B&O to reach big number it would help to be more flexibel and to use software to do it.
In my opinion B&O should develop Netlink/NL further also to manage multichannel. With the goal of covering different use cases:  (1) combining several standalone speaker in different rooms as multiroom speaker (as today) and (2) combining several speaker in one room as multichannel set-up supporting e.g. Dolby Atmos.
Sonos and Bluesound are moving in this direction with their multiroom protocols and Roon Lab is already there with their protocol.
Does B&O miss this trend (again !?!), because B&O stopped the further development of Netlink/NL. Probably because B&O seems not to have the legal rights and/or knowledge to develop and improve Netlink/NL.
B&O current strategy is entirely focused on Airplay and Chromecast. And the owners of the streaming protocol e.g. Apple will push their HomePod speaker with multichannel first (as they did with stereo), certainly not B&O speakers.
My conclusion is software sells hardware not vice versa. I strongly doubt that a company setting their main strategy on „craftsmanship“ and with no strategy on user friendly and innovative software / firmware / apps will survive the ongoing digital transformation.