TWG wrote:

We have enought threads about this topic....

On that we can agree ;-))

MM

TWG wrote:

We have enought threads about this topic but Yes, I have the same impression that it's going down the drain and the management tries everything to accelerate it! The world seems to be "blind" when it comes to Apple. You can sell EVERYTHING to the Apple crowd as long as the Apple logo is printed on it!

- iPhone has worse reception than other phones: Nobody cares - Mac mini: All ports and the button on the back. Super duper designer stuff. When I have a look at the newer HP line up: They do look nice, too but they are more practical as there are ports on the front, too: http://mashable.com/2015/05/04/hp-pavilion-pc-bo-play-audio/#vae5ZlsLcuqb The blue one looks rather nice. - Apple watch: Looks like from a vending machine and the price is a joke. If this watch was brought to the market in the exact same design by another manufacturer, the whole world would have called it "crap". As soon as "Apple" is involved it's cool. - Same goes for those super lousy low fi headphones from "beats". Only marketing and image but NO quality at all. It's just like you are wearing a subwoofer on your head.

The list goes on and on... I sold nearly all of my Apple equipment. I was a fan a few years ago... now I only have an iPad left and some airport express for the kitchen and bathroom. I speak in general, not for the members of our beloved forum! But I can't be the only person seeing this. :-) I think the Apple system works because people in general seem to get dumber and dumber and much more superficial than a few years ago. It's like our society "evolves" into future scenarios we just knew from old sci-fi movies like "running man". Entertainment for the masses to keep them "happy" and away from the few that are in control and have the power. Bang & Olufsen is too small and to weak to act so greedy and dumb like Apple does. But they don't seem to understand that. I BET that there are very talented enigneers and designers and workers which proved for years that they are able to deliver what we want. Now with the Moment or the Beoremote one, I have to ask myself if some of the people in Strue EVER tested the products? It started with the Made in China (yes, we love that topic!) ;-) Besound 3 and continuied with the Beosound 5 and it's unreliable motherboards, slow and irritating software as well as the ugly Moment and its software problems. Would be so nice if Bang & Olufsen develops all the nice software for Android, too. You can not control your Beosound 5 with MLGW when you don't have an iPad. How dumb is that? It should even be possible to control the Beosound 5 comfortably form your PC! Throw a server interface to the Beosound 5 and you could control it with everything that has a webbrowser.

The essence controller and the Beovision 11 are the most beautiful hardware products from B&O today (except the speaker range... they are nearly all beautiful). Tue should have a wall full of defective Beosound 3 as a memorial in the headquarter! :-) Personally I can justify buying Bang & Olufsen stuff only as a hobby! After defective Beosound 5, 2x Beosound 3, Beocom 4, Beotime, Beosound 3000 nobody of my friends and family believes me anymore that you pay for quality! Nobody! Even my wife now thinks that it's just designer crap that is not worth the money. I think that is the WORST thing that can happen to a companys reputation! It breaks my heart to see how B&O goes down the drain...

Regarding phones I'm happy with a Blackberry Passport. I tried an iPhone two times but there are too many restrictions: I can't access my photos like an USB-flash drive when it's connected to a computer - which is VERY bad when your computer crashed and needed to be setup again (Mac) and I had to many locations where my iPhone showed "Emergency calls only" while I could place phone calls, email and text without problems on the Blackberry on the same location. :-)

Millemissen wrote:

That was an option/an offer, that HO had (maybe still has) with all their products.

Had/has nothing to do with the HP/B&O Play partnershaft.

Please don't overreact because of something, which is quite normal in todays business world.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

TWG wrote:

Regarding phones I'm happy with a Blackberry Passport. I tried an iPhone two times but there are too many restrictions: I can't access my photos like an USB-flash drive when it's connected to a computer - which is VERY bad when your computer crashed and needed to be setup again (Mac) and I had to many locations where my iPhone showed "Emergency calls only" while I could place phone calls, email and text without problems on the Blackberry on the same location. :-)

Lol you are clearly from a different planet if you think Apple is producing junk and the blackberry passport is restriction free :D I'm sure you'll find 2 other people who agree.

Anyway... If Apple was to come out with a product like the moment which is really just a big thick gen 1 iPad and charge the outrageous price that B&O does they would get laughed right out of the market and become nearly bankrupt. Kinda like the situation B&O and blackberry find themselves in right now and for good reason.

Oh oh! This thread is becoming a typical Apple-Fanboy-War . . . . 

Please, stop that mine-is-bigger-than-yours and accept that others prefer other manufacturers because of their own decisions . . . .

Chris Townsend wrote:

I've been using the Passport for 3 months as a backup phone to my 6s Plus. The 6 betters it in virtually all areas, bar 3.

 

 

Battery life, reception and call quality. Three things I find rather handy in a phone. Plus anyone who was young enough to remember and appreciate a keyboard, gets one.

Good. Enjoy. I'm sure they will fly off the shelves and Blackberry will become the leader once again cuz those things sound great.

Now back to the near bankrupt B&O...

I totally agree with you - B & O equipment made prior to 2000 are still going strong.  I have 5500 complete system a complete 3300 system with 60.2 passive speakers and Penta passive speakers and the sound is amazing from both systems.  I am no interested in downloading music to MP3 but prefer to listen to CDs, Cassettes and Vinyls whereby you get a clear crystal sound, rather than the 'muffled' softened sound that downloading brings.

If you have the updated new systems too much can go wrong and are unable to find a company to repair it, at least, with the older systems you have capable and excellent companies that are able to repair and service them.  The Beosound 1 Laser is a big problem and won't last, but considering the lasers in the 3300, 4500 and 5500 systems they virtually go forever.

With the unreliable wi-fi downloads and the cut-outs that happens regularly when using the Internet forget it.

ProfD

Please do not talk about Blackberrys. I had one for 2 years and I couldn't work the damn thing properly. In the end it froze, locked and I lost everything including business contacts. I sincerely HATE that company as I lost A LOT of business on it! 4 years on, I still have my iPhone 4S and its been perfect - my MacBook lasted almost 6 years years with zero problems and roughly 20 years of use crammed into the 6. It was dependable and reliable and thats what I need for business and my own use. I'm loyal to a company like this who's product work and do not cause me worry or stress!