To be honest, I (and to a greater extent, my wife) likes things to look nice... she doesn't like huge TV's hanging off the wall and dozens of boxes on display and cables everywhere, etc...

We have a a relatively small alcove and were going to get a bespoke cupboard built and hang a 32-37" TV off the wall in the alcove (since it is only 98cm wide). We went into the B&O shop to buy the new phone and happened to see the BV10... the great thing about the device, is that it is rather tasty looking and even better is the fact that all your boxes can be stacked on the mount behind the TV and you replace all the remote's with one - it is a minimalist's wet-dream!

I don't mind paying a premium for design, but for this price I expect quality in abundance too!

From the general responses, I'm not getting the feeling that B&O stands out from the crowd in terms of quality/performance and per the above poster, the price tag is more related to the uniqueness, design and exclusivity!

roconn wrote:

From the general responses, I'm not getting the feeling that B&O stands out from the crowd in terms of quality/performance

That's not exactly that, but generaly, on the paper, B&O TV may not have specs that match certain recent TVs from other brands. But B&O has a special image processing system that usually gets better result than most TVs.

The sound also is very important and other brands cannot compete.

Talking about sound, the weak point of the BV10 is sound. Compared to other beovisions. It is still far better than other flat screens. So my advice is to get to listen to it in the store before you make your choice.

Also be aware that a 46" version is in preparation.

Sorry to hear BOBBY1 about your bad experience. 6 televisions changed. This is unheard of!

Is there anything we on the forum can do to help?

BOBBY1 wrote:

In my opnion no not worth the money. I have spent in the last 18 months £20,000 on B&O equipment sofar the B&O engineers have been out to me 20 times mainley problems with the tv's.so far ive had three Mk 3s 7-40s and three Mk 4s 7-40 blue ray,all have gone wrong.all i get from the dealer is an apology nothing else!! If i were you keep your money in your poket.

I'm going to go out on a limb and call BS on this. Frankly it just doesn't ring true, procedurally or otherwise. Maybe he had a bad experience, but it's like saying I've had 6 Mercedes Benz replacements in 18 months. It's just not true. First post doesn't help either. 

As for the worth, it's completely in the eyes of the beholder. At the end of the day you can acknowledge that B&O is superior (I'm just saying hypothetically) and still not accept the value proposition yourself. An Aston Martin is clearly a "better car" than my bike, but it's less practical for my daily commute which is 70% of my time in transit.

I'd also say that there are products that make mathematical sense and those that make emotional sense and both have a place. I don't spend much money on things that I don't care about and lavishly on those I do. I think everyone can find this pattern in their own life on a few things (food, travel, shoes, hobbies).

So follow your heart! 

roconn wrote:

I am seriously considering my first B&O purchase... a Beovision 10 television!

It has the looks I want and the picture quality/sound 'seem' excellent, but since I am not a multi-millionairre and still in the realms of 'normal' earning capacity, the £7k price tag does seem very steep - especially compared to my previous television purchases (my last being a £2k Sony around 3/4 years ago).

I assume everyone on this site is going to be somewhat biased, but I just need convincing that its worth spending £7k on a 40" TV - and I don't need the usual sales crap that I got in the B&O shop I visited at the weekend...

- Is B&O the best sound/picture quality you can buy? I read (on this site I think) that the screen for the Beovision 10 is made by Samsung, I wouldn't usually buy Samsung over brands like Sony or Pioneer, why would I buy a Samsung screen with a B&O tag on the top??

- Is the sound quality that great... to be honest, I am not a huge sound/vision man (I don't own a blueray player at the moment or subscride to HD TV, although I will), but am I buying an inferior product with an expensive brand name?

- Is B&O designed for people with more money than sense or is it truely a superior brand with a great design?

Hi,

Regarding BeoVision 10, please keep in mind that these TV sets can suffer from an uneven, cloudy backlight, which is distracting when watching darker scenes in dim lighting (normal evening lighting conditions).

A detailed summary of some cases, such as mine, can be found in my post at:

/forum/general-discussion-and-questions/beovision-10-bad-panels

B&O Customer Service has given no response on the problem. I am now having my TV photographed to document the defect, and then I'll see what my dealer has to say about it. The photos will also be posted to the above topic.

So, as one magazine puts it "exercise caution" with the new EdgeLED screens. When purchasing a BV10 that would mean that agree with your dealer about the terms and conditions of returning / exchanging the television, if it exhibits this problem.

Given the current condition of my TV, it was not worth the money. Assuming the panel gets exchanged and that resolves the issue, I'll be very happy with the TV.

EDIT:

B&O apparently does not replace panels that have backlight clouding, they do not consider it a defect (just had a chat with my dealer). So I'll revise my opinion:

If you get a good panel, BV10 is definitely worth the money. If you get a bad panel, the 6000K price tag stings to an extent that is somewhat equal to the size of your wallet, and directly equal with your TV watching habits. 

No i don't think you can help,iv'e sent a number of E Mails to B&O in Denmark but they never get back to me,i have phoned them but again not interested.Once they have your money thats it!!Yes the design is great but they fall down on reliability.I have B&O eqipment for the last 14 years and never untill now had all this trouble.Iv'e tried to sell all of my stuff back to them they said they would take some of it but did not want the tv.

I think the problem with the TVs is that the technology is rapidly evolving.  What is being used today will of course still work in 5 years and look the same, but technology will have advanced by a large degree.

The audio components however are not evolving quite as fast.  Many of us enjoy vintage gear (for myself my Beocenter 9500) and it sounds great.  Sure modern components have some advantages but the audio can last you for years and years. 

StUrrock wrote:

Sorry to hear BOBBY1 about your bad experience. 6 televisions changed. This is unheard of

Not really. I had 2 x BV7-40 MKIIIs and now 3 x BV7-40 MKIVs! That's 5 since Nov 2007 :)

Luckily the latest BV7-40 MKIV is fine, apart from an audio delay between linkroom TVs.

moxxey wrote:

StUrrock wrote:

Sorry to hear BOBBY1 about your bad experience. 6 televisions changed. This is unheard of

Not really. I had 2 x BV7-40 MKIIIs and now 3 x BV7-40 MKIVs! That's 5 since Nov 2007 :)

Luckily the latest BV7-40 MKIV is fine, apart from an audio delay between linkroom TVs.

I am sure TripEnglish will persuade you that you lie!!!

I am really sorry for what happened to you. Hope everything goes well now...