Kalle mentioned is his recently Talk To THe Nation, that B&O are not going to launch a new DVD/Blue Ray  or harddisc recorder.

With the new and improved PUC B&O are able to control most other players, so it shoulnd't be a big problem. And looking back on the DVD2 and HDR2, who would want  B&O to make new products like that.

B&o are simpley to slow to keep up with the technology. There are not a stand alone BD player on its way from B&O. My gees will be that if there are one cumming it will be a new bc2 with BD??????

The BeoSystem 3 is also out dated in therms of BluRay and HD sound. yes it can get a PCM signal from a BD player but i cant decode the HD soundformats its self. There is also flavs on the picture signal, because of the HDMI version 1,2. The standart today (and last 3 years) has been 1,3.

B&O if you are reading this.......... You are to slow, to old in technoligy. Keep up ore lower your prises by 50% 

Well,

B&O will do neither. If they are to lower their prices, they need to shrink down their costs per unit, i.e. become a mass producing main stream company. That would kill B&O really fast IMHO. They are not able to jump on every technology train and there is no need to do so. The rest of the industry is shooting itself in the foot at the moment - again IMHO.

If you want a cheap swiss-pocket-knife-which-can-do-everything-but-nothing-right type of device - then B&O might be the wrong choice. 🤔

According to B&O the idea is to keep your TV screen for a longer period and exchange external devices, should it be necessary.

This is a good way to give B&O customers more flexibility and is a lot more attractive, financially, then buying STBs that cost 1000+ Euro

and are performing equally to their less costly non-B&O counterparts.

Best regards

Alex

P.S No, a stand-alone BluRay player has not been announced as of yet. B&O just teamed up with Deutsche Telekom in Germany

to boost IPTV. So it seems they take a different approach to HDTV.

Thanks all for the input, evene if I'm not that interested in starting another "not keeping up with technology/ too high price" discussion, cause there is a few of those already around.

I'm more interested in the strategy from B&O and what message we buyers should go for in the coming 2 years:

- As a buyer: please rely on 3rd party BluRays or STB's. We, B&O, will not provide any new product with BluRay nor upgrade for BC2. We expect you owners of BV4,9,8 etc will facilitate this with the new and improved PUC B&O to be able to control most other players...

- Please go ahead with those investments and don't fear that we will within this timeframe launch any similar B&O product that you wished you spent the money instead on.

- The only exception is the planned upgrade of BV 7-40 III to BluRays capabilities, which also be a standard feature of BV 7-40IV

I don't think Kalle articulated this in his speach. It was around stopping "repackaging" a 3rd party technology under the hood of B&O and not new basemodule in the product line, where I guess actually a BluRay is. There where still a lot left for interpretation in Kalle's speach , unfortunately!

Cheers

cjocc

We will not be building one. Aside from enthusiasts looking for a branded box (remember the DVD 1?), there is no reason for us to do so. The architecture of the BeoVision 7 demanded an upgrade, but it only works there as a value-add. If we were to start to build a stand-alone player, there would have to be some useful innovation beyond a Sony or Samsung and frankly we're better off focusing our resources on the core product portfolio.

And the other issue is that Blu-Ray was dead from the start. Unlike music, the tendency is to rent video content, not to own it. Most non-enthusiasts seem to be looking at the media thinking, a new player for 4-5 times the cost of my old one? Discs that cost 2-3 times the cost of the old ones? A miniscule number of available titles? I don't think so. See articles like this one: http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14664

The fact remains that by the time Blu-Ray dips into an adoptable price range, digital video will be even more mature and cost even less. Apple TV and rental services like Netflix via Roku already deliver rental content for a few bucks, if not free after a low monthly subscription fee. Bit Torrent is making uneven leaps toward legality, distribution channels of which will lead to the DRM free trade of video. And although some of these services are partially mature or yet to launch, they'll be up and running by the time Blu-Ray players are $99 and discs are $9. 

I'm not saying BR are worthless, but they're somewhere between SACD and regular DVDs in terms of adoptability and that's just not enough in a world where digital video is coming so quickly. 

TripEnglish

So in other words, you support my "points"...

No upgrade to BC2, rely on "new and improved PUC B&O for control" and that BV7 is the exception!

cjocc

Yep! I started the reply earlier and came back to it. Things move quick here on the boards!

Hello all you BV4 and BV 9 owners!

How do you tackle this? What is your strategies going forward?

Cheers

cjocc

My thinking is that Blue Ray is kind of like DAT (remember that?), where the progression went from Vinyl to Cassette to DAT to CD to MP3. Most people skipped the DAT step. It is a technology that was developed but caught up on too quickly, and will be quickly replaced by digital media. I think the slow release of Blue Ray and the decision over which format was to be universal killed any chance of a decent lifespan. Most people will not follow the VHS to DVD to Blue Ray to Digital (online) , rather they will go VHS to DVD to Digital and skip the Blue Ray step. I know I will......