jk1002 wrote:

I am just really disappointed that they didn't nail music, video and for that matter photos at home better when in this scenario.  They treat it like on an Ipod which is for on the go but this is not for on the go, this device is clearly for the couch.

Here is an interesting article which looks at the iPad from a more broader and sober market perspective...

 Anyway, I like their illustration :-)

jk1002 wrote:

I am just really disappointed that they didn't nail music, video and for that matter photos at home better when in this scenario.  They treat it like on an Ipod which is for on the go but this is not for on the go, this device is clearly for the couch.

What exactly didn't they nail?  What exactly should it have been?  16:9?  That'll make book reading a lot of fun.  And how should they do that, narrower or wider?  One makes it rather large and the other one makes it smaller, both of which would also have people complaining.

It's for on the couch.  It's for on the train.  It's for on a flight.  It's for reading by the pool.  It's an e-reader that happens to do a boat load of other cool stuff.

I don't understand why it is that every time Apple releases a product it's accompanied by the vitriol of haters who want it to be more like a PC (must have USB! must have an optical drive! must use flash! must be .mkv compatible!) and have never seen or used said device before.  Not that the praises and rainbows and puppies of the Cult of Mac people are much better but gushing is better than vitriol any day. 

jk1002 wrote:

link

"Lee Brimelow is a Platform Evangelist at Adobe focusing on the Flash, Flex, and AIR developer communities."

Sounds like someone is worried that his livelihood is on the way out.

Remember when the first iMac came out and people freaked because it only had USB ports?  Remember when the iPhone came out and everyone freaked because it didn't do flash?  Remember when the MacBook Air came out and it didn't have an optical drive?  Remember when iTunes came out and everyone freaked because the DRM required you to use an iPod?  These products all did quite well.  Like them or not, when Apple makes a huge play to change the way an existing technology is used, they typically succeed.

dilznik wrote:

Remember when the first iMac came out and people freaked because it only had USB ports?  Remember when the iPhone came out and everyone freaked because it didn't do flash?  Remember when the MacBook Air came out and it didn't have an optical drive?  Remember when iTunes came out and everyone freaked because the DRM required you to use an iPod?  These products all did quite well.  Like them or not, when Apple makes a huge play to change the way an existing technology is used, they typically succeed.

I will personally be quite happy if/when Flash will be superceded by HTML5 for embedded media, but what worries me is the real reason behind Apple rejecting Flash. It is not the processing power or whatever the excuse - it is because Flash support allows you to easily run independent software. Apple doesn't want that, it wants to control the apps and their distribution to be able to dictate how the services and devices are used and how the money flows around them. Ultimately this could lead to worse monopolization than Microsoft ever achieved, with the difference that Apple fans all think it is great 😎

tournedos wrote:

 It is not the processing power or whatever the excuse - it is because Flash support allows you to easily run independent software. Apple doesn't want that, it wants to control the apps and their distribution to be able to dictate how the services and devices are used and how the money flows around them. Ultimately this could lead to worse monopolization than Microsoft ever achieved, with the difference that Apple fans all think it is great 😎

True dat.  Time will tell on this one.  Protecting the iPhone from malice?  Or making money.  Don't forget that as long as there aren't viruses on Apple products there are people that will switch because they've gotten one virus too many.  So even the friendliest reason will make them money.

cooldude wrote:

Flash is indeed a problem, but there will be an app for that !!! ....
I think HTML5 will kill Flash in the long run.

It is the full strategic intent of Apple to kill Flash by not enabling it on iPhone, iPod, nor iPad.

If/until Apple is defeated in this area, expect no Flash support whatsoever, neither from Apple nor from a third party on the Apple Store.

XavierItzmann wrote:

It is the full strategic intent of Apple to kill Flash by not enabling it on iPhone, iPod, nor iPad.

If/until Apple is defeated in this area, expect no Flash support whatsoever, neither from Apple nor from a third party on the Apple Store.

Defeated?  That would be the best thing to happen to web pages in a long time.  Get rid of all this random junk on websites and get standardized and more efficient.  Flash and Windows Media on web pages needs to go the same route as Real Player and Shockwave.  As in: gone.

jk1002 wrote:

And to say that mayor websites remove flash, show me that trend.

Sure thing, no problem.  Remember link supposedly not accessible from iPhone/iPod/iPad?

Turns out exclusively for iPhone/iPod/iPad.

Can you ring people up on an iPad?😕

Jandyt wrote:

Can you ring people up on an iPad?😕

With Skype.

dilznik wrote:

Jandyt wrote:

Can you ring people up on an iPad?😕

 

With Skype.