Soundproof, I'm not talking about a Mac. I'm talking about an AppleTV. Mac's a whole different story. An even worse one, but a different one

TripEnglish wrote:

The Remote app, for example, is flawed in that it's constantly dropping the connection with the attached library, pausing, halting, reloading, etc. Even though only the music's info is streaming, the experience is awful. I've never been able to really get it working reliably either at one of my houses or one of my clients'.

This works extremely reliably in my home.  Just use the following settings:

iPhone > Settings > Auto-Lock > Never

Remote.app stays on until you manually press the sleep or lock button at the top of the phone.  Never a drop in the connection with the attached library, nor pausing, nor halting, nor reloading, etc.  The experience is flawless.

I count 11 available available WiFi networks right now as I live on a 36th floor, and I have a BeoCom 1 and Bluetooth network with five devices running simultaneously; i.e., there are at least 17 devices broadcasting in the 2.4 GHz band at the same time.

I use an old original iPhone without an active SIM effectively as an iPod Touch / Remote.app to control BeoPort via LinkPlayer.

One might find it useful to read the instructions on how to use the Remote app, then. It's not as if it's very difficult.

Mine renegotiates in a second if the iPod Touch or iPhone have been in sleep mode, and I'm instantly able to begin selecting and routing music.

@ Razlaw

Your BV7 has a very sophisticated sound and image processing unit (Beosys3) - this contains good DACs.
All you need do is route the HDMI OUT from the ATV to the BV7, and you should be set.

Settings on the ATV give you options for output. (You can also port sound and image separately, but there's no need for that, since the BS3 in the BV7 has HDMI-IN.

linder wrote:

 

I agree that in this setup, the Beosound 5 is definitely superior.  Beosound 5 is the best B&O music system especially for people who are willing to spend the money for something that works well without much effort.  This is what I would expect from B&O.  Its the reason I purchased a Beosound 5.

I have iTunes but it is a lot of work.  For Beosound 5, you easily rip the CD and the system does everything else.  There are no worries about meta data or format.  

How is Beosound 5 supposed to be a music system without much effort, if I'm a Mac user ? I don't want to buy a Win PC for digitizing my audiophile CDs into WMA lossless format. 

This is what I would expect from B&O:

- A DVD/CD drive that can be connected to the Beomaster 5 in order to digitize audio CDs directly into the WMA library.

WMA makes kittens cry.  That is all.

I've done a quick patent search and can't find anything relating to decompression algorithms - are we sure the early talk to which Trip referred wasn't confusing the MOTS algorithm with the codecs?

Puncher wrote:

I've done a quick patent search and can't find anything relating to decompression algorithms - are we sure the early talk to which Trip referred wasn't confusing the MOTS algorithm with the codecs?

That could be it.

There's absolutely no reason why an iPod shouldn't port perfect digital OUT, which Wadia realized when they made this unit:

Puncher wrote:

I've done a quick patent search and can't find anything relating to decompression algorithms - are we sure the early talk to which Trip referred wasn't confusing the MOTS algorithm with the codecs?

MP3 (and derivatives based on similar psychoacoustic models, such as AAC) itself is badly ridden with somewhat unclear patent and licencing claims. I don't think B&O has any direct involvement with any of those.

Anyway, the real meat in MP3 quality is in encoding, not decoding. The MPEG Audio Layer III (MP3 in short) standards describe the data format and how it is decoded, but not how you end up with that data, starting from uncompressed audio. This is the area where most of the patent issues are. Actually I don't think any decoder can perform better than another, unless there are outright errors in the decoding process.

It is unfortunate that these formats have such domination when we have completely free (and often better performing) alternatives such as Ogg Vorbis.

soundproof wrote:

 

@ Razlaw

Your BV7 has a very sophisticated sound and image processing unit (Beosys3) - this contains good DACs.
All you need do is route the HDMI OUT from the ATV to the BV7, and you should be set.

Settings on the ATV give you options for output. (You can also port sound and image separately, but there's no need for that, since the BS3 in the BV7 has HDMI-IN.

Thanks!   I assume the same thing applys to Beoport?  The speakers connected to BV7 receive the benefit of the BV7/BS3 and thus music from the iMac via Beoport benefits from it just as Apple TV does?   

TripEnglish wrote:

I'll definately share whatever I can find out. In the (seemingly endless) lead-up to the BeoSound 5, the decompression was hyped internally as part of the magic. When we finally got to sit down with working units I was handily impressed. It's admittedly been mentioned little to not-at-all since release.

Did you manage to find anything about the decompression, original or not?