AppleTV only has 160GB on-board storage and gives priority to video. My audio along is greater so there's streaming from a "switched-on" system no matter what.

Attached DACs improve a bad situation, but don't match up sonically.

I don't hate the AppleTV, but google "Apple TV problems" and you'll start to see what a cluster-cuss the thing is. 

M4SPM wrote:

It Doesn't stream but it could be the hand held two way remote it has Wifi

I think the iPad will stream and more.  The app just hasn't been written yet.  This is a good idea for some aspiring developer to do.

Once again Affineur represents the opinion I see in the majority of my customer base. It's not that he and I specifically share a philosophy (though it sounds as though we do), but that his needs and demands align completely with the majority of B&O's core clientele. 

I totally agree with Trip and Affineur.

The Beosound5 is very enjoyable experience. I would be very interested in it if it offered me a more complete solution (better integration with both my audio and video libraries)

The Ipad with its present capacities cannot be more than a '2-way user interface' , just like the Beosound5 is just an interface for the beomaster.
It will need a backend (mac or pc), just like the beomaster, to do most of the work sending the requested content to your stereo or tv.
Does not take the fact away that the Ipad (if a proper B&O app would be developed) would be an interesting replacement (or extra) to the Beosound. 

The Ipad can never be a true stand-alone, stream your library, kind of product. It was never designed to be that.
Scrolling through a big library of CD covers is very taxing on both the serving and receiving side and can hardly be done well over wifi.
To be practical way and in order to secure fluid motion the cd covers should be stored on the IPad, with the audio or video files remaining on the server and be fed to your stereo or tv from there.

The apple TV's work very well as secondary stations ( extra bedroom tv, kitchen, bathroom, etc...) for audio and video.
However, if you live in a wifi-rich area (Like me living downtown Montreal) it's going to cause problems. Alot of my video library has been ripped full Dvd quality or higher making the heavy use of my wifi system and therefore more prone to hick-ups and  at the same time hogging the bandwidth for other users on my home network.
Hardwiring them with ethernet solved all problems. 

>>I think the iPad will stream and more.  The app just hasn't been written yet.  This is a good idea for some aspiring developer to do.<<

Apple restricts what a developer can do through the SDK (software development kit). It did not open up broadly for the Ipad, so non apple apps for video or audio playing or streaming is not really in the cards. Also, I don't think it makes much sense since you would end up with battery problems, it requires some power to do that.

I think a better remote app done by Apple is in the cards, so ATV and IPAD may be a better solution for some.

jk1002 wrote:

>>I think the iPad will stream and more.  The app just hasn't been written yet.  This is a good idea for some aspiring developer to do.<<

Apple restricts what a developer can do through the SDK (software development kit). It did not open up broadly for the Ipad, so non apple apps for video or audio playing or streaming is not really in the cards. Also, I don't think it makes much sense since you would end up with battery problems, it requires some power to do that.

I think a better remote app done by Apple is in the cards, so ATV and IPAD may be a better solution for some.

 

Sorry but I was actually talking about future possibilities.  You're right.  The SDK is very restrictive now.

cooldude wrote:

The Ipad with its present capacities cannot be more than a '2-way user interface' , just like the Beosound5 is just an interface for the beomaster. It will need a backend (mac or pc), just like the beomaster, to do most of the work sending the requested content to your stereo or tv. Does not take the fact away that the Ipad (if a proper B&O app would be developed) would be an interesting replacement (or extra) to the Beosound.

This is my direction... again, not defending nor offending the BM5/BS5. I just see the iPad as a BS5 without the wires, and with a world of possibilites.

My ~2 year old Touch does have music on it. How often do I use it as an iPod? Once, for about a track or two. I do, however, use it all the time for the Remote.app!

My iPad will not be a glorified iPod nor a gelded Macbook. It will be my new Touch XL. It will be my primary hub for interacting with iTunes on my G5, and whatever else comes along for the ride via B&o's MCL Gateway, IRTrans, or something else coming in the future.

burantek wrote:

cooldude wrote:

The Ipad with its present capacities cannot be more than a '2-way user interface' , just like the Beosound5 is just an interface for the beomaster. It will need a backend (mac or pc), just like the beomaster, to do most of the work sending the requested content to your stereo or tv. Does not take the fact away that the Ipad (if a proper B&O app would be developed) would be an interesting replacement (or extra) to the Beosound.

This is my direction... again, not defending nor offending the BM5/BS5. I just see the iPad as a BS5 without the wires, and with a world of possibilites.
Exactly ..  :) The BS5 is a beautifull machine. The fact that it's not movable and audio only has stopped me buying one.

My ~2 year old Touch does have music on it. How often do I use it as an iPod? Once, for about a track or two. I do, however, use it all the time for the Remote.app!
Same here ! Though mine don't even have any music on it anyways. I do have a Nano for 'on the road' use. 

My iPad will not be a glorified iPod nor a gelded Macbook. It will be my new Touch XL. It will be my primary hub for interacting with iTunes on my G5, and whatever else comes along for the ride via B&o's MCL Gateway, IRTrans, or something else coming in the future.
LOL Touch XL indeed ... or  how about the regular touch would be renamed 'Ipad Nano' ???... LOL 

TripEnglish wrote:

Sound Quality: - you'll never begin to approach the sound quality produced by the BeoSound 5. The sound-card hardware and decompression algorithms are stellar.

Really? Perhaps you can expand on how this is  - if most store their music in uncompressed format then the "stellar" decompression algorithms add nothing to the proceedings. The soundcard hardware is based around a $5 A/D converter from Analog Devices which gives a very reasonable to good performance but I've never heard it described before as "stellar".

I think that the right externally connected converter could in fact quite easily approach the sound quality of the BM5 and, I'm also reasonably certain, surpass it. 

I think we should be a little more considered in our claims.

TripEnglish wrote:

AppleTV only has 160GB on-board storage and gives priority to video. My audio along is greater so there's streaming from a "switched-on" system no matter what.

Attached DACs improve a bad situation, but don't match up sonically.

I don't hate the AppleTV, but google "Apple TV problems" and you'll start to see what a cluster-cuss the thing is. 

 

Hello Trip,

I appreciate you enthusiasm for the Beosound 5. I wish syncing iTunes library and Beosound 5 would be easier. I want to use iTunes as my main music library.

When I proposed iPad and Apple TV as a Beosound 5 replacement, I wanted to point out that the iPad would be the remote user interface of Apple TV, which is connected to the Beosystem 3.

I'm sure you know the Remote App for iPhone. You can browse through the Apple TV content easily on your remote iPhone/iod touch/iPad.

Best, E.