Integrating Playmaker into Master Link setup

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Millemissen wrote:
I prefer to choose my music from the room I am actually in, and that wouldn't really be possible with the MacMini 🙁

That's where the Remote (iTunes) App from Apple on the iPad Mini will be superb. 

Millemissen wrote:

P.S.

What do you mean by: "......the iPads. MCL2P"??

you said you had two iPads ....

The "MCL2P is an error 🙂 I was copying and pasting in response to another thread, and must have accidentally pasted it here as well.

Paging Millesen.

Hello dear friend,

I have exactly the setup described in your article in the Danish forum, plus a Beo6..

How do you search the music stored in the NAS (mine is à Synology too) using a B&O remote?

Do you think that the wireless function of Beo6 could be used?

If not possible, which application could I use on my i device, knowing that I do not want to turn on a computer to get music?

Kind regards,

Yann.

 

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To 2012martin:

Personally, I wouldn't trust anything more your "salesman" tell you. The sound is far more defined thru Playmaker. AirPort express will never come close to it. When it comes down to sound processing, your 9000 does not do it. It's all done inside the Playmaker and then it just comes out via RJ45 to DIN into an A.AUX port on your 9000 which at this stage would only act as a switch/enabler to distribute the audio on the Master Link bus. I've tried both in our shop Airport Express & Playmaker hooked up to a pair of Lab 12-3's. The 'natural' buzz inside the Airport will never let the speakers to turn off and sound quality is comparable to BOSE (all files played were Lossless in either Apple or WMA format). Playmaker is a different ball game altogether. I have a Playmaker hooked up to my BeoMaster 5500 as I have a few rooms linked in MCL standard as well as ML standard. All I've done is made a RJ45 to DIN cable and hooked it up to TAPE1 on the 5500, then I set the Playmaker to set line level and put it in L.Opt 0 (I will explain why below). Now where ever I am in the house, I press Playmaker button on my Beo 6 and start streaming. There's your Playmaker pushing sound to all connected rooms in which the source is activated via Master Link.

Disadvantages: 

1. If the playmaker is on set line level you are unable to Play/Pause the source only STOP button works on Beo4/5/6. This goes for both AirPlay and DLNA protocols. I suspect it's software in the Playmaker that does not allow it. Even if it did, it would not serve any particular purpose as you only can control the Playmaker in the room it's in, link rooms would rely strictly on manual song swithing on the streaming device.

2. Not possible to fast forward or rewind lossless files. 

Theoretically Playmaker does not support Lossless WMA file format, which I found to be untrue and somewhat stupid as all of my music has been ripped either in Windows Media Player or BeoMaster 5 itself, where all my tunes are in Lossless format.

Over all, Playmaker is the best thing since sliced bread. As I don't have to worry about my friends trying to 'dump' their music onto my BeoMaster 5 so they can play it or go behind my 5500 so 'figure out' where to plug in their iDevices. It's my friends, they already have access to my Wi-Fi network at home, so all I gotta do is press A.MEM on a remote and let them stream away. And when all is calm and quiet and it's time to clean up after the party, I let the BeoSound 5 take over the music and playlist altogether...

 

Hi YannChris,

sorry for letting you wait - did not notice your post untill today.

Of cource you can't control the music/the files on a NAS with a Beo4.

Using the DLNA-port of the P! You need something else to control/to choose the music.

Might be a computer/WMP or som kind of DLNA-compatible software (there a lot of possibilities).

But using an iDevice or some Android-thing with a DLNA-app running on it makes life much more comfortable - especiialy if you listen to music in different rooms and don't want to create a looong playlist on your computer.

Take a look at the app PlugPlayer (actually I alread described that in my post in the danish forum).

There are versions for both iOS and Android.

With this app you can "see" your files on the NAS - or more correct: you can see what the server on the NAS has done with your files.

On a Synology there are differnt servers running, and you can install even more.

What the server does is indexing the files from the metadata/tags included in them, and displaying that to you in the app.

!!! Metadata/tags must be in the files to make this thing work - as an examble you won't see any coverpics unless the are there!!!

In the app/the interface you chooce where-to you want to play them. Means you chooce the PM!

With the Beo-remote you can only open the port on the Master/MasterLink, means pressing A-Mem/A-Aux, and of cource control the volume.

 

I have no experience with the Beo6 and the PM - but haven't heard that you can choose "where-to-play" with it.

Theoretically it might be possible because the Beo6 is controlling the server on the BM5 and the player there as well.

It might be a matter of sofware-updating to let it use another rendere.

Although I do not think that such an update will ever be made.

 

You can use other apps as well:  google for "DLNA apps" - start with: 

http://appadvice.com/appguides/show/dlna-streaming

Take a look at the '8player'..... You can AirPlay from that too.

 

Sorry for the long post, but these things are complicated - and there could be a lot more to tell.

 

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Hi Oakley,

I have used the PM connected to my Audomaster with no problems ever since it  came out - we got it first here i DK 😐

The disadventages you are describing I did not notice - meant nothing to me.

The PM is a damn good device, with excelent soundquality and it is easy to use (if you are familiar with DLNA and AirPlay).

It made my B&O-life much easier.

 

Greetings Millemissen

 

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Playmaker in two rooms

Apple TV in two rooms

Mac mini + iTunes + Airfoil + Muse Control

Can select (with your iDevice) which rooms to listen to audio from Mac mini to any room in the house on your B&O speakers. If listening to your iTunes library, you also have complete control via Beo4 in Playmaker Rooms, and AppleTV rooms provided you have a BeoTV with ATV PUC.

Not as simple as ML, but it works.

Hi peria,

Good solution - thanks!

 

Lets have some more solutions/examples of the use of this versatile device, please....

Greetings MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

I would like to know from the guys, who use a ML-converter as an audiomaster, how the Aux-port is activated in different rooms.

In a room with an Active/PassiveLink - in a room with a Link-tv - in a room with a BL200/3500???

Always with the command: 'A-AUX'???

 

Has anyone already tried it with a BV11 and NL/ML-converter-setup???

A setup with a BV11+NL/ML-converter, the ML-converter (as audiomaster) with the Playmaker connected to it, and one or more ActiveLink-rooms, would be a nice setup - wouldn't it 🤩

Greetings Millemissen

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

I've not tried a Playmaker so can't comment on audio quality. However, given that it costs just three times what you pay for an airport express (and knowing B&O's pricing) I do struggle to believe the sound quality is significantly superior. May be proved wrong when I hear one but I've seen no hard data to suggest so. It's big strength is that it gives you full control over connected BL speakers. 

@Hardwriter I wonder why the PM is always compared to  the AirPortExpress.

Seems that most people ONLY use the AirPlay-function of it.

If that is so, people should listen and compare - and chooce whatever they prefer.

But the PM is much more than just an AirPlay-device.

If you use/need these functions it is more than worth the money.

Greetings Millemissen 

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

What do you meen about that the PM is much more than an AirPlay device? I am thinking about buying one...

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