In home demo of Beolab 5s, with 9s.

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wonderfulelectric wrote:

maclife wrote:

And why do you think that is that the Lab9s have conventional class AB amps for their mids and highs instead?

Because they are cheaper.

And why do focal and adam monitors stopped using Iceamps for those frequency regions too?

Most probably for being not compared to the BeoLab 5.

Conventional Class AB amps are cheaper? Are you high? ...

The bl9 reused the chassis from the bl1.  Therefore, it was cheaper as the engineering was mostly done. 

Stan

Well that makes some sense but Icepower modules are plugin ready modules so.... Erm... 

Actually amplification modules for active loudspeakers are almost always in ready plug in forms. Go search around and you will know what I mean. But AB is really expensive. I tried looking at bryston's amp packs and they cost like $3000 at least. A little nuts I would say. Okay maybe Bryston represents the top echelon of amp packs With Icepower you save a lot on the heatsinking and power supplies. I don't mean cheap = bad but what I mean is that way back when the Lab5s were made Icepower technology has yet to fully mature. 

wonderfulelectric wrote:
Conventional Class AB amps are cheaper?

Yes.

Are you high?

No.

You know how much is a 1000W icepower third generation monoblock selling aftermarket nowadays? Below or around a thousand! And how much does a class AB amp sell for that kind of power? At least 5 times that and and I mean the cheapest ones.  Haven't you been following beophile or beoworld at all? Icepower is meant as a power and cost saving.

Have you written somewhere that the used amplifiers in your fictional comparable speakers should have exactly the same performance? No.

Have you given me any example of an active speaker using amplifiers with the same performance? No.

And 250W two channel third gen Ice amplifiers are selling for only $700. Hello...

So? I am still waiting for any facts.

Do you just dish out responses without research?

I am impressed by your reality distortion field.

 

Yes, yes. A 25 cm woofer in a Beolab1 🤩. That is the firts time I heard of that!

maclife wrote:

wonderfulelectric wrote:
Conventional Class AB amps are cheaper?

Yes.

Are you high?

No.

You know how much is a 1000W icepower third generation monoblock selling aftermarket nowadays? Below or around a thousand! And how much does a class AB amp sell for that kind of power? At least 5 times that and and I mean the cheapest ones.  Haven't you been following beophile or beoworld at all? Icepower is meant as a power and cost saving.

Have you written somewhere that the used amplifiers in your fictional comparable speakers should have exactly the same performance? No.

Have you given me any example of an active speaker using amplifiers with the same performance? No.

And 250W two channel third gen Ice amplifiers are selling for only $700. Hello...

So? I am still waiting for any facts.

Do you just dish out responses without research?

I am impressed by your reality distortion field.

 

There you go

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-b-o-icepower-125asx2-ghent-a200x-amp-classd-550w-x-2-ch-2013-01-07-amplifiers-shanghai

and 

Icepower with linear supplies

http://www.wyred4sound.com/webapps/category/74030/117839/18046

beosound wrote:

Yes, yes. A 25 cm woofer in a Beolab1 🤩. That is the firts time I heard of that!

Chassis = amplification, not drivers.

See here:

/forum/general-discussion-and-questions/beo-sound-essence---im-excited#post-2009764

valve1 wrote:

Razlaw wrote:
wood floor with carpet on it,

I remember this point in your previous demo. A suggestion ; get 2 concrete pavers (no idea what that translates to in American ) they are used for patios and streets and measure (in ye old imperial ) 24 inches x 24inches and 2 inches thick and try them under the speakers- nothing ventured....

I might try that.  It might help. Thanks for the idea!

To be honest, I think that even if they sound good with the paves underneath, you should save your money for something else if the BL9s sound better in your particular place.

I had that same thought. But it might be an interesting test and if they sounded amazing I might find some way of making the pavers or other look good.

Oh, yeah, definately test them. I'm all for that. If for nothing else, it will put your mind at ease either way :-)

 

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