I miss David Lewis...

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cooldude wrote:

Simonbeo wrote:

Anybody else think Jonathan Ives at apple has adopted and developed the Lewis style?

 

Both were inspired by Dieter Rams'  principles I would say.

 

.........on the other hand David Lewis didn't just do varying sized flat rectangles with rounded corners - still, David Lewis never got a patent for it either!😜

Simonbeo wrote:

Anybody else think Jonathan Ives at apple has adopted and developed the Lewis style?

No, he has adopted the Jacob Jensen style. Lewis wanted to spirit away all mention of Jensen from B&O, but everything worth remembering in the design of B&O was established by Jacob Jensen. People forget, like the person just above who thinks Lewis designed the Beosystem 5000-7000. Which is where Ive got a lot of this inspiration.

 

Flappo wrote:

I can't believe the V1 won any awards , it's a design disaster.

reminds me of my old Mecanno set!
soundproof wrote:

No, he has adopted the Jacob Jensen style. Lewis wanted to spirit away all mention of Jensen from B&O, but everything worth remembering in the design of B&O was established by Jacob Jensen. People forget, like the person just above who thinks Lewis designed the Beosystem 5000-7000. Which is where Ive got a lot of this inspiration.

No, watch objectified.

How many of these threads do we really need?

It's obviously important to people. Is there a book on the subject of bang and olufsen design?

Ahh another "I love Bang and Olufsen, I love Bang and Olufsen not" thread... Age old discussion but it's true that of late this has become a hotter topic.

A controversial opinion but honestly, if the company ceased existing today I wouldn't much care. If anything, this might even have a positive impact on the value of some of the classic products. I am an audiophile not a videophile, and I am a lover of "gadgets" and "gimmicks". The era of melded design, sound, and mechanics of these "gadgets and gimmicks" for B&O has passed. This is not their fault, but a product of the way things are done today. Parts are no longer available from B&O for many of the products I hold in high esteem anyway, so the truth is I would much rather have the company cease to exist, BEFORE it falls into lockstep with Nakamichi and so many others throughout history that began "Chinafying" certain products, then sold out to the Chinese altogether. Now you can buy "Nakamichi" headphones for 20.00 at K-Mart.

Someone mentioned Jony Ive and Apple, and the truth is that Apple is going through a transformation of similar gravity itself. With many of Apple's most die-hard fans and users in the professional community abandoning the brand because it has lost its desire to serve the professional community, axing one high end product after another and now, with serious doubts that the Mac Pro will ever be replaced or updated. The difference is that "consumer focused" Apple does well, while B&O have to be careful about going too far downmarket because of an image THEY created for themselves.

Appreciate Bang and Olufsen for what it is and what it has produced. Revel in the fact that in an industry that is about the latest and greatest, this is one of the FEW brands in technological history that has an entire FOLLOWING of devotees who appreciate the "old". But the "old" will never be new, and this era has passed. Truth be told, I don't even believe that BL5 is going to be replaced with a product of exceeding or perhaps even equal caliber.

soundproof wrote:

Simonbeo wrote:

Anybody else think Jonathan Ives at apple has adopted and developed the Lewis style?

No, he has adopted the Jacob Jensen style. Lewis wanted to spirit away all mention of Jensen from B&O, but everything worth remembering in the design of B&O was established by Jacob Jensen. People forget, like the person just above who thinks Lewis designed the Beosystem 5000-7000. Which is where Ive got a lot of this inspiration.

 

Between the two designers, Jensen and Lewis, as much as I like Jensen's work I think Lewis' was better design. Some of that is the designer, some undoubtedly the technology and product type he was presented with to design around. And certainly some of Lewis' doesn't float my boat, as in the BS4.

I guess out of the "new" stuff, the thing I find the most visually disappointing is the Lab 12 series, and the Lab 9. Mounted on a wall the 12s look pretty good, but not on stands. I always liked the Lab 4000 on the wall, and given the difference in length of the 12s it would have seemed like a longer 4000 with more woofer would look good, albeit it wouldn't be as easy to incorporate the acoustic lens into. The 9s just look too squat and dumpy, but perhaps that's due to my long experience with the 8000s which present a completely different visual style.

At any rate, it is what it is, the days of electro/mechanical marvels is gone and not likely to come back outside of us Luddites who still like these things. Heck I even have tube amps, tube radios, and old Karlson speaker cabinets around for hobby kinds of systems. I do think a lot of people's problems with B&O are rooted in problems with future shock as in not liking the results of the whole streaming technology/culture and lack of real media.

cooldude wrote:

I totally love the Lewis designs like the beosystem 7000 and 9000, beosound 9000,  Ouverture, BL8000, beolab 3,5, 9 and some more. I have some of them in daily use.

Beosystem 7000 was designed by Jacob Jensen -so was Beosystem (center) 9000.
Yes -Lewis designed the BeoSound 9000 -which was very much JJ inspired: Straight lines/brushed Alu/Black plastic/glass...

My B&O Icons:

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Jeff wrote:
I do think a lot of people's problems with B&O are rooted in problems with future shock as in not liking the results of the whole streaming technology/culture and lack of real media.

Exactly!

The migration was so aeonically subtle, we pipe & slipperers completely missed it!

Or was it B&o?

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