I have figured out how to get the Playmaker to play nice with Linux - simple fix

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I'm delightedly listening to a lossless file which I managed to get from a PC running Ubuntu to my Playmaker without any major messing around. This is not a perfect solution, as you'll see below, but it makes it easy to get things working.

The round-about route to victory

Short version: what you need is GUPnP which is a nice, well-supported piece of Free Software which speaks DLNA. It acts as a PC-based remote control for your media server and Playmaker.

For the media server, you need the non-Free Skifta, which is free-as-in-beer but doesn't come with source code. Some people care about this, some don't. I'll live. You just download and run Skifta, and it takes your various directories with music and makes them visible to GUPnP.

Result: two easy-to-install well-behaved apps work together to give you a basic browse-and-play interface on your Linux PC. GUPnP gives you the interface, and Skifta handles the media. You can also install Skifta on your phone and use it as a control from there, but I don't like the UI on that approach. I tried it. It's a pain.

Why you have to go the long way around

The Airplay / Playmaker thing is a deadend on Ubuntu - the iTunes audio interface is dead on Ubuntu. You can install all the software - pavucontrol, pulseaudio-module-raop, paprefs. Net result: nothing, it doesn't work. Your Airplay device, in this case the Playmaker, shows up in the Sound control panel, and when you send audio to it, nothing happens. The audio app usually pauses and waits to start streaming, and then never moves. Best guess why is that RAOP is out of date, and devices expect RAOP2 which doesn't work as yet.

It's not likely to get fixed any time soon - DLNA seems like it's where the development effort is, so here we are.

Quick thought for any Bang & Olufsen staff reading this

Support Linux. Here's why:

1) It's not hard - release the source code, offer a little encouragement, and people will soon-enough have the Playmaker running custom hacked operating systems that make it do what they want it to do. It probably runs Linux already, truth be told, so why not?

2) B&O is hurting financially, and not that many people have £4000 to blow on audio equipment - I certainly don't, I bought used at MoreThanAV. However, the BeoLab 3 is pretty much the perfect nerd audio system - technical, precise, clever, doesn't take up much space, you can lug it to Burning Man in a pelican case etc. The aesthetics and performance would work well for the nerd community, and they control an increasingly large percentage of the market place. For guys pulling down £80k+ a year on average, B&O is a plausible choice.

3) Innovation happens at the edges. Give people the source for the Playmaker, and let them experiment. You never know what kinds of innovation would happen, and all of that is free R&D.

The polished aesthetic is great for people that have no idea of how technology works, and little interest. But Apple's day is yesterday. Android is now arguably better than iOS in a whole range of ways, and that trend is only going to continue.

Time for a change of direction, maybe? Talk to a broader community, help them to support their own toys on your hardware, get something interesting to happen?

Anyway, just a suggestion, but there are a lot of hackers in the world, and they all like music. Worth a try.

That was a long story - but thanks anyway for sharing the trouble one has choosing the stony road of Linux.

Of course you can use the Playmaker, when you run Linux!

What you need is DLNA compatible software, and DLNA software you will find for any OS - no fuss about that.

 

As for your "advice" for B&O "releasing the sourcecode", I must say: there is nothing that they could release. They have - like all the rest - bought the BridgeCo chips and built them in.

Maybe these things can be hacked or reengineered, but B&O would not for any reason be able to "open up" their Playmaker.

 

As for your thoughts of Apple being yesterday, I must notice that if you want a system to 'play around with,' 'experiment with', just stick to Linux/Android and DLNA. If you want a system that works out of the box, choose Apple/iOS and AirPlay

It is the Airplay function (and the Line-in function) that makes the Playmaker shine, not the DLNA function!

Greetings Millemissen

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Linux 🤒

I have no OS flag to wave but I think they should make a point of staying on top of DNLA, I know some folk like Airplay but you can be certain that the vast majority of flat panel owners have a DNLA compliant device, whether they know it or not!

Functionally, I don't know much about differences between DLNA and Airplay - DLNA's a bit less mature, but "chuck file at device" vs. "chuck bitstream at device" doesn't seem like a religious issue :-)

But DLNA is definitely here to stay - android speaks it, TVs etc, lot of devices. I can't figure out what the licensing terms are, but it seems to be a lot more open than the Apple equivalent technologies, so... it's sticking around.

On the Free Software front, it's not hard - the Playmaker's got an operating system, it boots up, talks IP etc. All that code could (probably) be released, and people could hack in additional features (top bets: graphic equalizers, fixing DLNA-"pause" signalling, etc.) probably by building a web interface to the embedded software on the Playmaker. That's the sort of stuff a lot of techs love to do.

Right now, B&O is very much in the same camp as Apple: beautiful glass devices with non-modifiable internals which work perfectly. And you can *absolutely* sell to that market, and provide an option for people who want something different: "and you can flash the firmware and put on your own software, but entirely at your own risk" and off you go to the races!

If you are really into Linux, you should leave the Playmaker in the shop....

....and have some fun with the Raspberry Pi:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/airplaying-music-and-video-from-ipad-to-raspberry-pi-its-as-easy-as/

Greetings Millemissen

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

I'm with the Muppet in that I'm not convinced Airplay is B&O's future.

muppetsrock wrote:
On the Free Software front, it's not hard - the Playmaker's got an operating system, it boots up, talks IP etc. All that code could (probably) be released, and people could hack in additional features (top bets: graphic equalizers, fixing DLNA-"pause" signalling, etc.) probably by building a web interface to the embedded software on the Playmaker. That's the sort of stuff a lot of techs love to do.

The free / open software issue is complex, and there are a few points that might prevent stuff like this from ever happening:

  • The chipset manufacturers might only release their programming specs under NDA. That's usually game over from the free software point of view. Many devices and their drivers have been reverse engineered, but B&O the company could have nothing to do with that
  • It already includes an AirPlay implementation and they simply can not release that in the public - blame Apple, not B&O
  • B&O don't want to support that even unofficially, because then they would also need to support it officially, train the dealers, etc etc (see next point)
  • Company strategists nowadays try to offer the users "total brand experiences" and tinkering half-officially with non supported pieces of software and foreign hardware is totally against that
  • They might even have a few executives that still think that free software is communism and will deprive them of their profits, even if it would be useless without the associated hardware
  • Some decision makers might also think that nothing good can ever come out from free software, because it is hobbyist driven - you know, all the good programmers are working for big companies and those do everything better, even though they keep offering us such compost fodder as Windows Vista and charging us dearly
  • Also, it might reveal that the Playmaker and similar devices are essentially a wifi chipset, a DAC and a smallish system-on-a-chip CPU with a small handful of discrete components and connectors, the only part differentiating it from anything else being the software. They are probably right with that.

Personally, I'd take an open specification such as DLNA over AirPlay or whatever any day.

@tournedos - How about having and using both?

I love my Playmaker, as often stated in this forum!

Sometimes - for Spotify/netradio/podcasts etc - using the AirPlay part, sometimes using the DLNA part from the DLNA server on my NAS via PlugPlayer/iPad, but mostly using the line in for my Squeezebox drawing on the NAS (FLAC files) controlled by Squeezeplay/iPad. And the PM autoswitches these inputs, which is great.

The operation system of my Synology NAS, the DiskStation Manager (DSM) is a Linux based software - so in my case the Playmaker plays nice with Linux.

No need for a long story - or for 'OS battles' in my case.

Greetings Millemissen

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Millemissen wrote:

@tournedos - How about having and using both?

I'm sure Tournedos is not advocating DNLA to the exclusion of Airplay, he is merely saying that the former is likely to be more productive for a third party company as an open standard rather than the latter as closed - and I agree. Incorporating Apple standards is likely to incur a cost but a cost that should be incurred, but not to the exclusion of everyone else. The main point is that B&O's success of failure shouldn't be reliant on Apple and its whims - B&O is not, nor should become, an accessories supplier to a third party!

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