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A converter is nothing new, when it comes to B&O.
I am glad that B&O offers this possibility - which other company would do that......for you to keep your good old stuff.
As for my wife - she is very glad that she can handle all with one remote, using the same or similar commands for whatever must be operated.
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
A normal person will not be able to work netlink and masterlink together anymore so new plus old is old news. 9000 is now wall art because too complex to keep going without parts and service. MX and 3000s will run til they die and we will have a nice ceremony at the bin. All reasonable.
I kindly disagree. At least in Switzerland there are capable specialists to help you keep an old system current. We happily have BS 9000, BS 3200, Beomaster 7700 (!), 7-55 and modern systems like BV11-55 working in "harmony" and connected with the exception of BM 7700. This one carries on as a standalone system. Yes, life with B&O has become more difficult, however, non B&O systems fare much worse in reparability.
those other systems come at a fraction of the price though.
And from what i understand, going forward ML products wont integrate (either at all?) or much less ease than previously, with something like the Eclipse (i.e. the hub).
B&O still do some things well, but let's not pretend that all the aspects that made the high prices justifiable (for some) are all present in their new / recent offerings.
If i had an Eclipse, for example, and discovered it's Bluetooth headphone connectivity had been disabled, i'd be absolutely furious.
Whatever BV they do next (if they do) needs to be less frankenstein, however good the paper specs looks.
Its one thing losing some heritage feel, its another losing basic functions present, and playing 3 times the price for the privilege.
A normal person will not be able to work netlink and masterlink together anymore so new plus old is old news. 9000 is now wall art because too complex to keep going without parts and service. MX and 3000s will run til they die and we will have a nice ceremony at the bin. All reasonable.
I kindly disagree. At least in Switzerland there are capable specialists to help you keep an old system current. We happily have BS 9000, BS 3200, Beomaster 7700 (!), 7-55 and modern systems like BV11-55 working in "harmony" and connected with the exception of BM 7700. This one carries on as a standalone system. Yes, life with B&O has become more difficult, however, non B&O systems fare much worse in reparability.
Well said and quite fair. In my part of the world, the requirement for specialist requires the means and inclination to take on a more complex project to get that result. That used to come with the price tag, and the bolt-on converters and connectors provided minimal value for a lot of money. I have no problem saying the entertainment world passed me by, but I won't pretend that B&O represents the current or future reality of A/V. It just doesn't. I will fight to keep going what I have as long as I can, but Chinese programmed modules and "specially selected" panels will be too dear...for me.
Although correct, the point of integration is to much put in the spotlight, whereas it hardly gives any to no issue!And from what i understand, going forward ML products wont integrate (either at all?) or much less ease than previously, with something like the Eclipse (i.e. the hub).
I can play and do the necessary control to ALL my ML-audio in the NL-system and therefore on the Eclipse.
Call it what it is, in the last 10 years B&O got more grace for producing non-performing sh** than any other global company in the A/V business. They forsook their loyal core of customers and dealers like children who take their trust fund to hang out with the Kardashians, run out of money, blame their parents for not treating them right, and end up working at Ikea. Royalty in the eyes of the blind.
Pity the poor rubes and plebeians buying their little LG, Sony, or Samsungs. They just expect things to be affordable and actually work as advertised, the poor deluded saps.
We're all beta testers now! Sadly.
We're all beta testers now! Sadly.
If not alpha testers. 😉
If i had an Eclipse, for example, and discovered it's Bluetooth headphone connectivity had been disabled, i'd be absolutely furious.
The Eclipse never had ‘headphone connectivety’ - how can it be disabled then?
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
Compared to the C7 - Bluetooth connectivity.
On the C7, not on the Eclipse.
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