@ 9 Lee,
Sorry,
But I am not the person you think I am!
And for sure I do not want to criticize your work in general, but as a moderator moderate! If you have to change a posting for what reason so ever, make a remark at the posting that you did it and why. If I you had deleted the picture and made a remark, I wouldn’t have questioned the independency at all.
The rest is history and mostly because “Beoworld” sees demons and acts like they been chased by extremely stinging bees.
I made some critical remarks and on every remark the answers are in some way even more ridiculous.
If Beoworld had stated: “we are independent and want to keep it this way and we regret the way things have been resolved. In the future we will handle different”. Then there would have been no debate.
But then Beoworld’s demons came ………….. and made is worse and worse.

Before I rest my case only one question: why is the other picture allowed on the forum?
Now I rest my case.

Sven_Peter wrote:

 ....extremely stinging bees.

Shiver. Truly the stuff of my nightmares :P

Sven_Peter wrote:

 If Beoworld had stated: “we are independent and want to keep it this way and we regret the way things have been resolved. In the future we will handle different”. Then there would have been no debate. But then Beoworld’s demons came ………….. and made is worse and worse. Before I rest my case only one question: why is the other picture allowed on the forum? Now I rest my case.

I don't think there is anything for Lee to regret to be honest. He removed the post  and 100% of the moderators an 90% of members support him in that.

It's time to draw this to a close and move on!

Simon

>>It's time to draw this to a close and move on!<<

 

Yes .... I always figured it would look like Trip English and now he confirmed that so i will send that pic to engadget as inside scoop ..... B&O launches new TV in a suit ......

Hi all,

I do not normally post on threads like this but in this instance i do back Lee 100%, given that that you cannot please everyone all of the time! but out of interest especially to Lee, i have recently visited the factory in Struer and had a fantastic time and met some genuinely friendly staff who were incredibly helpful and hospitable but i got extra kudos and respect from mentioning Beoworld 😐 so all the hard work Lee and everyone else puts in has paid off to a extent, and i would be sad if that were spoilt by vague independence issues and a leaked picture of this singularly important product launch for B&O, which is pretty imminent!

 

Regards

Ray

jk1002 wrote:

Yes .... I always figured it would look like Trip English and now he confirmed that so i will send that pic to engadget as inside scoop ..... B&O launches new TV in a suit ......

While it's good news that I've broken cover as the highly anticipated BeoVision 10, I'm afraid that I'm considerably thicker than rumors have indicated! 

TripEnglish wrote:

jk1002 wrote:

Yes .... I always figured it would look like Trip English and now he confirmed that so i will send that pic to engadget as inside scoop ..... B&O launches new TV in a suit ......

While it's good news that I've broken cover as the highly anticipated BeoVision 10, I'm afraid that I'm considerably thicker than rumors have indicated! 

But are you made out of  a single block of aluminium?

A tricky issue 😮

As a dealer, it is an almost daily occurance to be asked for images/info/specs for new or imminent products.  It can be frustrating - particularly when launch dates can shift around or products are delayed - to have little or nothing official to show.  It is even more frustrating if a member of staff is then shown or told about something that lurks online before they have seen an official version !!

However, there are many sectors where a press embargo is in place prior to the official launch of a product, and for perfectly valid marketing reasons.

but...things leak out - officially or otherwise, things get pictured and things get "found" (remember the serenata line drawing from a licencing submission?)  and then posted in places like this. 

Lee - for what its worth, I think on balance you have acted with the best of intentions, both for your site, and for the brand.  110% behind your decision, I'm sure it was a hard call.

The original poster may or may not have had similarly good intentions, ie  merely wishing to tip off like minded enthusiasts - I have no idea one way or the other - but ....using such an obvious alias, then (seemingly) stirring it up behind the scenes via PM's don't strike me as the actions of someone with the best of intentions..... 

As for the Bv10 - it will be the next Avant, and it is a thing of beauty....it may even find its way to the foothills of the Pennines to replace my beloved Avant at home in the near future.......assuming we sell a few first 😎!!

Peter - you made a wise choice, as ever.....another classic to add to your collection.

 

Peter wrote:

I will happily carry the can for editing the post mentioned above - I was emailed stating that this was effectively advertising by a company not registered as one of our sponsors. I removed the offending links and left the thread which developed nicely. Would do the same again with no hesitation. I would not want to see this site become full of threads advertising goods. Those sites who do advertise on here pay for this and letting others do so at no cost would seem very unfair. The only option would be to allow all advertising and a number of B&O message boards have disappeared after this has occurred.

Peter - this also seems fair enough.

You did the correct thing.  Way back when, I recall mentioning something in a thread that was removed as being too close to a commercial message.....I can't remember if it was an in-store event (not the Beoworld meet we hosted here - that was fine, and we must get round to a another ) or something we had for sale....anyway, a decision was made, it was removed, I got a very polite explanation via email and that was that.

A few rules and regulations are worth having to protect the site in its current form without wall to wall advertsing, pop ups and so on.

If people want to see a heavily modded forum, full of hidden agenda's, vitriol and vested interests, I could point to a few of the music/festival sites I also use 😉

Beoworld is a quiet haven of civility, decorum and good manners in comparison. 

 

 

 

I don't really understand the relevance of who posted the picture - genuine member or not.

The fact remains that someone posted a picture that potentially gives us some knowledge we didn't have before. If that ruins an expensive launch party for B&O then tough luck! They can choose which pictures they want on their site but not on anyone elses. Furthermore, this picture would do NOTHING to take sales away from them, and is actually likely to generate a few extra since some may feel a little more confident about putting in an order before they land in the dealerships.

I have to say that I was worried when they came onboard as a sponsor for this very reason. I'm now wondering if such an image would have been removed had they not been.

Have we sold out for the price of a BV8?!