AngloApulian wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

Why should they licence their audio technology to LG or any other......?

None the less, it is a fact, that these BV's are made by/at LG using the parts that B&O provided and the LG tv.

B&O does not buy the panels from LG Display in order to make the tv themselves.

 

MM

 

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

 

With regards to licensing their audio technology, I was referring to what was stated by Barry Santini in a previous post:

Perhaps the next chapter is a modest license fee paid by LG (or others) to integrate B&O wisa/other protocols into their ZtV operation. Then B&O exits direct branded TVs all together.

Good morning,

Simply licensing the technology is not possible because additional hardware is required such as a chipset for surround decoding, sockets for speakers connection,WISA transmitters, etc. 

Regards,

Jean

svinaik wrote:

Seems like with the new products, now it is other way around. Much more expensive launch prices in the US versus Europe. I was very anxiously waiting for the B&O OLED TV but after seeing the launch price of 65 inch at > $ 16,000, I am staying away for the time being.

Don't forget that a B&O TV is more than just a screen: to do a proper price comparison, you need to add the cost of a separate surround processor and center speaker (and the hidden cost of the inconvenience of finding components that match well together). Your BV9 has all of this integrated, the stock LG TV has nothing of that.

Regards,

Jean

Millemissen wrote:

On the other hand there was talk about the Light Sensor being still a part - which I guess, can be called a B&O feature.

I am very curious, how that is going to work - on an OLED screen?

MM

 

I'm not sure how much of that was marketing BS! My last (7 yrs ago) Panasonic plasma had a light sensor that modified brightness according to ambient light etc. as had many competitors - it's not a big deal.

It will be interesting this time around to see what B&O do with their colour calibration - latest Panasonic has their (LG) OLED THX4K certified for colour accuracy and is mentioned as a reference monitor for colour mixing in studios etc. It seems that although every one is using LG panels there are still things to be tweaked if you know what you're doing!

AngloApulian wrote:

The OLED panel may be supplied by LGDisplay, but the TV integrated with other B&O technologies will still be designed by B&O including materials specified in the manufacture of the TV. Ultimately it will still be a B&O product not an LG product.

Actually, I think you've got this wrong, that's the entire point of this thread. This LG-produced OLED is a departure for B&O. For previous TVs, they've taken the panel and wraped it around their own visual/audio system (powered by the Beosystem 4) and materials. 

With this OLED TV from LG, they've partnered with LG where LG is producing the TV component, from my understanding. So it's very much an LG panel, LG picture-processing (no Beosystem etc), with a connector to a B&O-developed speaker. So B&O is primarily focussed on the speaker and audio.

So this is far less of a "B&O product" than you're trying to make out (or willing to believe).

moxxey wrote:

Actually, I think you've got this wrong, that's the entire point of this thread. This LG-produced OLED is a departure for B&O. For previous TVs, they've taken the panel and wraped it around their own visual/audio system (powered by the Beosystem 4) and materials.

With this OLED TV from LG, they've partnered with LG where LG is producing the TV component, from my understanding. So it's very much an LG panel, LG picture-processing (no Beosystem etc), with a connector to a B&O-developed speaker. So B&O is primarily focussed on the speaker and audio.

So this is far less of a "B&O product" than you're trying to make out (or willing to believe).

AngloApulian wrote:

With that being the case, one has to ask why B&O decided to go with LG’s image processing and not their own BeoSystem.

As mentioned above (or was it in the Eclipse thread), B&O has ditched their video processing department, so the BeoSystem isn't being updated and the old v4 won't be suitable for powering an OLED.

So, rather than spent lots of money and time creating a new BeoSystem for the OLED, they are using LG's technology. And, yes, it's to save money. Can't be easy trying to produce a proprietory system to power a third-party panel, especially when it's not their speciality (but audio is).

Effectively, this means the panel part is very much an LG TV. So we really are paying for a 'wrapper', sound system (speaker), BeoRemote and stand. You'll have to figure if those items are worth the extra amount above the cost a regular LG OLED.

And it would be interesting to find out when its released what the exact details are, in particular does the TV have WISA and can connect to your existing speakers for Surround Sound for use with out a surround sound / AV receiver 

im liking this thread 

Moxxey is right a while back flatpanelshd said that the new oled from bang-olufsen won't have any image processing from b&0 all lg which i think is a shame. i'm not a fan of lgs processing motion to me is pretty bad loewes picture processing is amazing especially on the bild 7.

When i had the compose slim frame it displayed a picture quality unlike anything i've seen before with the 200hz processing bv11 picture was similar but the loewe in my opinion had the edge.

I can only imagine an oled tv with b&0 picture processing, deep dark blacks visionclear picture technology wow!!! shame the eclipse won't have that as all the video processing will done by lg.