I'm sure all those Loewe products look nice, but what about the build quality I like in Bang & Olufsen? What if I truly care about how it's built and what materials are used?

And I'm sure you know that Loewe speakers are re-branded Bose (putting them well below BeoLab 4s in quality), so what would be the price increase for the 875 watt stereo sound experience I get from a 7-2? Loewe doesn't offer such a product, so where would I go to get it?

What if I wanted more than 2 HDMI inputs? Who would I accomplish that with the Loewe system? An HDMI expander? How would I operate that? Please explain.

What about 7.2 surround sound? What If my room can accommodate this setup? How would I add this capability to this Loewe system and at what cost?

What about the ability to turn the television to my viewing position? Do I have to leave my chair? Maybe there's a button on that chintzy remote? No? So how would I accomplish this? Please quote a third party bracket that I can operate using the Loewe remote control or else also quote universal remote with the professional programming since a Beo 4 will do this out of the box.

What if I want to dim the lights when I watch TV? How does Loewe connect to my Lutron system?

What if I want to close windows? How does the Loewe achieve contact closure on outputs?

How should I go about integrating a projector for event viewing? How does the Loewe accomplish the seamless switching from one monitor to another?

It doesn't matter whether you need these capabilities, they exist in the television you're comparing your system to. They don't disappear because you don't like them. Just pointing out that your "fair" comparison is nonsense.  

It's like criticizing me for overspending on a meal at Morton's when there's raw meat available at a grocery store. It just misses the point. 

If you are not someone who appreciates fine dining, please understand that that is personal taste and not a valid commentary on fine dining. 

Come on... I think everyone here can appreciate the BV7 or any other beovision. But for once be honest and just admit that despite their craftmanship and looks the basic models lack the most essential technologies like HDMI and full HD.

Every DVD player now has HDMI (or any digital tv decoder): we all know it does not make a difference on a normal DVD but who wants HDMI to DVI connections etc etc etc when you buy a TV at that price.

 HDMI on every BV ! Or even a Full HD screen. 

aesthetes.

I'm the first to criticize the overpriced beovision(s) in regards to the lack of some basic functionalities (like no HDMI on a 5,5KEuros TV !).

Please note that I'm not talking about the BV9 which is realy unique.

The beovision's problem is that buying B&O is a LONG TERM INVESTMENT. But  how could it be relevant to buy a 12KEuros  B&O TV when it performs like a 2,5 KEuros screen six or twelve  months  after you bought it ? The competitors are working hard to improve their screen technology every 6 months. Still now for example  the Beocenter 6 is largely underpeforming in term of screen quality (my old small sharp aquos is far better), same thing for the BV 8.

B&O TVs will be far more relevant when the flat screen technology will be mature in 2 or 3 years.

Whatever, B&O is all about LIFESTYLE. You pay for the Design,  the Quality of build, the Exclusivity, the B1 shops (...) and  last but not least the Brand. 

I can easily agree that most  people cannot understand that. Especialy when life is becoming harder and harder..

I want to stress that you don't need to be rich to think and live like an aesthete (it helps of course). It's always a question of choice, time and patience. When I was student, all my friends were buying a new ugly and cheap windows laptop every year.  I saved over  1,5 year  and I bought an Apple. I kept it 5 years. It was performing enough for what I needed and it gave me great satisfaction and pleasure.

So keep your old TV and save over 2 or 3 years and then buy a Beovision.

 

Very weak arguments in your post, Trip. Fact is that Loewe offers 2x a DVB-S for an additional 150 euros. Individual Compose this is standard. Capable of watching HD-television. CI-slot is standard. DR+ is standard. Watch and record decoded channels at the same time with one smartcard. Quality of video is outstanding. 3 years warranty, same as B&O.

- DVB-C/T tuner standard, twice.

- Timeshift, just one button. Easy!

- USB slot standard, twice. Put some jpg or mp3 on a stick, and pop it in. Simple!

- Remote for your STB or BR-player? Why? STB is in the tv, BR can be hidden, because its controlled with the hdmi-cable.

- 7.2? Whatever.

- Turning the television? No problem.

- Connect more than 2 hdmi? I wonder if you would say the same before the 7-40 MK3 was launched just one year ago!!!

- Close the curtains, dim the light? Just stay in your chair and ask your wife.

The only thing whats right in your post is the sound quality. B&O wins. But it is easy to connect beolabs to the AC3 module. Best of both worlds.😕

just one year ago!!!

- Close the curtains, dim the light? Just stay in your chair and ask your wife.

The only thing whats right in your post is the sound quality. B&O wins. But it is easy to connect beolabs to the AC3 module. Best of both worlds.😕

 

Thank you never noticed this whilst typing

DoubleU,

Weak arguments in my post? Let me quote your arguments here:

"whatever"

"no problem"

"ask your wife"

Not exactly Harvard debate material.

Otherwise, my argument stands. I don't think the Loewe is a bad choice at all and wasn't insulting the poster's personal choice. I'm glad he went with a unique offering. I'm also glad that a brand like Loewe see fit to offer something that stands out from the crowd.

The point of my post was that the comparison to the BeoVision 7 was not an accurate or instructive one in that it did not contain any of the things I mentioned. As I've said before (but who reads these days), we can certainly debate whether the capabilities of the BeoVision 7 are necessary for the average user. Even I would say that they're generally not, but to simply ignore them as if they cost or offer nothing is, as I've said, not accurate or instructive.

And while the previous BeoVision 7s were never released here in the states, chances are I would not defend them. Fortunately we weren't discussing them.