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...and the neighbors all want to watch Game of Thrones on the Avant. What happened?
Why? Game of Thrones couldn't look any better on my BV11-46. It's close to blu-ray quality and would look amazing on a even larger screen. You don't need a small 32" Avant to get the most from Game of Thrones :)
I use a 32" in the kitchen these days. Way too small for me to enjoy something like Game of Thrones.
2years ago i was toying with the idea buying beosound 3200 or mac book i decided for the latter ,i see lots of good examples now for second hand systems in perfect condition similarly priced !!,never looked back or regretted the move!, music plays very good with sonos speaker more than happy but not the B&O level!!,will i spend £5k in beosound & speaker now(if still made) big NO!!.Nither seems to fly off the shelves for that price too!!.well know facts world-wide not many now buying cds!!,however i still do!!😁
I have purchased brand new avant also Bv7-32for example a moung few others and paid the full fat price so money is the reason???
Badges and desirability,sell items,not specs and price.The car industry is a prime example,loads of people buy expensive,basic spec bmws over a lower priced higher spec competitor,solely for the badge and image.I see more range rovers on the roads than I ever did,and they are not the best reliability wise and are expensive.
I have seen fully loaded cheap brand tvs with worse pictures than b&o dated spec tvs.I have sat on £6000 sofas that are not as comfortable as a £2000 sofa.Why do we choose them?,not the price, but we are suckered into the marketing,if its expensive, and someone famous or rich has it,it surely must be better.
I admit back in the day,it was easy for b&o to stand out with crt tvs,as most competitors looked the same,and B&o were unique,not just picture and sound,but rotating stand,electronic curtains,built in processors etc the avant especially.Also most cd players were all black boxes,were as beosounds were like a piece of art.
These days its harder for b&o to seperate its self from the crowd,as the platforms to do so have changed,tvs are thinner and are changing at a lightning rate,and its hard for b&o to keep up,technology and designwise.Audio systems are computer based now,and are mostly controlled with tablets etc,so nothing really for b&o to design and put on display.
Its not that B&o have slowed down or lost the plot,its just that in this day of age the competitors are catching up.Beolabs on the other hand is something b&o should concentrate heavily on,you just need to look at the residuals on b&o speakers over the tvs and sound systems.also most home cinema in a box systems over the years have copied beolab 6000s with their plastic looking pillars.
I am not bothered if b&o make it easier to mix and match with other makes,I bought my link system in the first place,as it gelled together,made the technology work for me,looked good and was a breeze to use with one remote.
B&o should concentrate on what they are good at,good sound,good picture,individual design,good materials,and ease of use,and charge what they want for it.B&O has never been a company that follows suit,or embraces technology early on,the japanese do that.with cars also.They have been a brand for the domestic market who want good looks build quality and technology that is easy to use and will not bamboozle.
Nissan gtr are a sophisticated technical masterpeice of a car,which are loaded with gadgets and are extremely fast and well priced,but people still buy astons and bentley etc,which are more expensive simpler technology,but have the brand and heritage,people buy into that,and they chrarge what they want for it.Vertu sell phones at ££££££££ and are not as good as a iphone but they still sell.We are having a recession,but I still see loads of money out their being spent,especially luxury brands.
B&o please just produce items that,if we cant afford now,we can at least aspire to own.Thats what desirabilty is about.There is a certain car I cannot afford to buy just now, but have set myself a goal to have one on my drive someday.Why?because I desire it so badly,its looks,exclusivity, and last of all, price.Just the same with the b&o I bought,the looks in the shop,the touch of the items,it made me buy there and then,or if I walked out I would set myself a goal to work harder and be back for it.Thats how desirable b&o was then.
I use the BeoSound5 everyday and it never ceases to Bamboozle me!that is easy to use and will not bamboozle.
Maybe using your bs5 everyday doesnt bamboozle you,but reading my post properly,certainly does!
I meant people, buy b&o over other brands,as they like to have technology,but without the bamboozle,that you got with other brands with seperate remotes etc.B&o was technology simplified as they thought of the end user.
Hi,
I think no. Sure they are playing in different technological area's but they allways have had different product categories and specifically stand alone equipment.
The masterlink and methods of integrating products was world leading, so was Audio and Video products for some time. New methods of linking products through WiFi and networking are common place and allow the consumer to grasp music and video from everywhere. Something masterlink was never able to do. So it will change, bit like StarWars being re-released when minaturisation was replaced by CGI.
Video and audio products are fitting into older stand alone categories its just not obvious.
The BV11 is getting good reviews. Its pricing is well above the ratio an Avant was against a Lowve or a Sony at the time. So I believe $ need to adjust down. Its sound is ordinary though. $24K for a BV7-40 is off track though and so are larger TV's via a high margin.
Beoplay (new name, new demographic, new methods of purchase) is a category that seems to be succeeding and its a step that is introducing B&O to the masses.
On speakers I do feel that the mid to high end needs a revision. A sound first approach be highlighted which I believe is happening.
B&O stores are an issue. They have been the historic way of introducing the product to consumers (I believe ramain so), though they are expensive, don't work as a franchise model or superstore model are are difficult to exit from.
In general the product range is as large as it has been for some time. Design remains slow however technology improves the speed at which products are created and delivered to market.
There is plenty of room in the markets for B&O if they choose to play in them. High end is there, mid market has the potential to boom as does the high consumer end.
There are great potential opportunities which B&O are taking steps to capitalise on. The speed and means are the question...
My thoughts. Beoaus
Location: Australia
Ok, the V1 manages to integrate, and you like the V1 design. Take me beyond that product and you end with a Coleman cooler on the desk and a Braun bathroom fan on the shelf.
...and the neighbors all want to watch Game of Thrones on the Avant. What happened?
Why? Game of Thrones couldn't look any better on my BV11-46. It's close to blu-ray quality and would look amazing on a even larger screen. You don't need a small 32" Avant to get the most from Game of Thrones :)
I use a 32" in the kitchen these days. Way too small for me to enjoy something like Game of Thrones.
Because the old Avant 32" looks better than all the new big box junk and the sound is incredible. Take it as a metaphor and move on.
The Play series doesn't integrate with the regular products with ML or the Gateway Link. They are play alone devices and are a dead end device.That's not true. BeoPlay V1 is able to connect to NL (like BV11)
Meanwhile, the design is just odd:For me the design of V1 ist great, and it fits perfectly into my kitchen.
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Ok, the V1 manages to integrate, and you like the V1 design. Take me beyond that product and you end with a Coleman cooler on the desk and a Braun bathroom fan on the shelf.
...and the neighbors all want to watch Game of Thrones on the Avant. What happened?
Why? Game of Thrones couldn't look any better on my BV11-46. It's close to blu-ray quality and would look amazing on a even larger screen. You don't need a small 32" Avant to get the most from Game of Thrones :)
I use a 32" in the kitchen these days. Way too small for me to enjoy something like Game of Thrones.
Because the old Avant 32" looks better than all the new big box junk and the sound is incredible. Take it as a metaphor and move on.
So what's your point? We're all better off with an Avant?
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