moxxey wrote:

Have you ever thought that most broadcasters can't 'afford' or justify moving to HD, because so many people are still using CRTs? Who breaks this cycle? Sky had 1 million HD customers, but it's still only a small fraction of the number of TV sets in the UK.

I doubt broadcasters would ditch SD and move over to HD in a hurry as it costs so much to produce HD content (new sets required, more expensive cameras and post-production).

I go back home and watch an old CRT and still think it has excellent PQ. However, I come back here, power up the PS3 and one benefit of a large 1080p screen is that they can be played and viewed in their intended 'glory'.

The limiting factor to the spread of HD isn't the number of CRT TV's out there. In technical terms it is  simple to provide an SD stream of the same program. The limiting factors at the moment are availability of HD Content and bandwidth.

CRT TV is still the best option for most day-to-day TV watching, even though in the longer Long term CRT is dead in the water, which is why  CRT TV's are exclusively low-end budget models these days. We will all be upgrading in the end, but I am happy to wait for now.

Simon

I'm still in awe of the picture on my CRT (Avant & MX) and find that the picture is much better than any of my friend's Flat Panel TVs. They all agree too.

I guess sometimes 'Size doesn't matter' 😕

In Aus, we have channels ONEsport,ABC1, SBS, SEVEN, NINE, TEN, ABC2, SBSnews... ok, and all of these are avail in SD and HD. (Yes foxtel is available, but seriously, life is too busy to justify having 1 billion channels repeating the same movies).

So for me personally, it doesn't matter whether or not the content is HD or SD. I couldn't be happier with a 32" SD CRT > i have a small house, the picture is yet to be beaten in my eyes - nothing beats it when it comes to the natural colour, movement and complete abscence of mechanical & electronic noise. The best part? It's cheap as chips, and the BV3's design is still mistaken for being a flat panel TV.

Ok, this is my first reply on BeoWorld, so forgive me if I make a particular "faux pas".

I currently have a 32" Avant with a standard Sky box fitted at the back, and I think the picture I get from it is nothing short of superb! Ok, if I want to play on the x-box the picture suffers a little but overall I think the picture I get from my tv beats many new LCD's hands down. Couple that with the sound that comes out of it and i'd like to see and hear a "mass produced" LCD do that!

A friend of mine recently bought an LG  42" LCD TV, he read all the relevant reviews for it and made sure he got the latest model and paid a very tidy sum for it, but the picture and sound from it are awful! Ok, plug in an x-box/ps3 and the HD cables make a difference with picture, but again a standard def picture isn;t anything close to my 9 year old Avant.

Cranking the sound up on "Guitar Hero" the other evening, ( I know, i'm old enough to know better!) and friends were just amazed. (Though doubt the neighbours were!).

I love my Avant and HD television content is not high on my agenda, and it's only available in a limited way here in the UK, so why would i want to change?

Plus I can;t find my wife's credit card to go and buy a new BV7-40. Damn, where has she hidden it!!??

I think there is a bit of performance vs. quality.  It depends on what you need or want most.  I love having my BV4 at home but when it comes to critical monitoring only my Sony Professional CRT Reference monitor at my studio would work.  Likewise, my Avant will outperform almost any other consumer TV in terms of performance.  Brightness, contrast and black levels are outstanding!  As for quality I feel like I've got a bit of a ferrari that looks and performs great but I'm counting the days before it needs a tweaking.  

Like most technologies and their analog counterparts (Phonograph/CD, Internal combustion/Electric) there seems to be a distinct qualitative/quantitative curve in terms of performance.

Interesting thread.

Well, I'm also adicted to my BV3-32 picture quality on SD and I'm pretty much an SD consummer, so I could say I'm pretty well set up until HD becomes widely established as the standard. However, I've moved to a large detached house outside of the city. My living room is quite big and the BV3 is clearly not up to the challenge. What is the best compromise solution for somebody that needs a large screen but demands good SD quality??

I would say that BV7-40 is the best combination that will work well with both contents (If I only had the 11k euro I need to get it). Or perhaps a BV8-40?🤔

If my living room's size was not an Issue, I could live easily another 2 years with my BV3.

After CRT I personally think Plasma offers the best performance.  Not to mention bang for your buck right now.  The Panasonic Professional plasmas are a great value and integrate well with the BS3, although I know many people are partial to Pioneer.  

However, if they are still offering the discounted, Non-DVD version of the BV7-40 then I would spring for that.  That was an incredible deal as it actually was cheaper than the BS3 that it came bundled with.

oh dear, i am setting foot in a tv thread 

i have ~5 tv's running at any given time.

i would rate them from best to worst as...

1.) 30" philips crt (HD): 100% HD content / avant 32: 100% SD content

2.) 42" panny plasma: 100% HD content

3.) mx5000: 100% SD content

4.) 28" philips crt: 100% SD content

so, IMHO, the crt's still dominate whether HD or SD. the philips 30" is truly remarkable, and yes, people often ask me if the avant is HD as well.

if i could only keep one, i would miss my HD content because it would have to be the avant for everything else that it represents and does for me. i just love it.

Ditto to nearly all of you!
The Avant is truly wonderful, both with sound and with picture.  32" is all I will ever need in this house.
Oh, and I'm with j0hn on this too. So many people just get a bigger tv to out-do their pals. I live in a house, not a castle.

Andy T.

beobeo wrote:

Interesting thread.

Well, I'm also adicted to my BV3-32 picture quality on SD and I'm pretty much an SD consummer, so I could say I'm pretty well set up until HD becomes widely established as the standard. However, I've moved to a large detached house outside of the city. My living room is quite big and the BV3 is clearly not up to the challenge. What is the best compromise solution for somebody that needs a large screen but demands good SD quality??

I would say that BV7-40 is the best combination that will work well with both contents (If I only had the 11k euro I need to get it). Or perhaps a BV8-40?🤔

If my living room's size was not an Issue, I could live easily another 2 years with my BV3.

Why dont you get a projector?