While I often visit the forum and read posts; pretty much my nightly routine, I haven’t replied to one for some time now but this particular thread does encourage me to do so as I share your ‘frustration’ if that is the correct word to use in this context.

Many people will already know from many of my past posts that I have always chosen design over functionally although of course, ideally I am looking for both to be exceptional. Like you, and probably many others I love the glass, the use of metals and shapes, the moving parts, the ‘magic’ as we often refer to it and I too miss the iconic designers of the past and what they brought to the table.

I suppose now though I find myself thinking how hard it must be for B&O and the current design team to keep producing outstanding award winning designs as many of us undoubtedly wish them too. With technology changing as much as it has and continues to in this century, are we simply expecting too much? I am not for one minute suggesting there isn’t something else to create or a different design path to explore; rather perhaps how increasingly difficult the challenge must be.

They have, without as shadow of a doubt created some unbelievable products. Personally, I am a huge fan of the BeoCentre 2 although I never actually bought one! But now I might like to. Those wings are just a wonderful design statement as is the beautiful metal surface with that elegant touch sensitive control. I was a huge fan of the BeoVision 5 and ended up buying a BeoVision 9 and then the BeoVision 11-46, which I still use today.

One of my favourite products from B&O (there are many) was the little BeoSound 3, which I loved and used more than any other product probably, literally every day for hours on end. Sadly the design flaw in the top part of the unit let it down and that is the only reason it wasn’t a keeper otherwise I would still be using it today. The BeoSound 9000 of course like many others, I owned and loved; an outstanding product in every way a product can be. In fact it was more than a product, the word ‘product’ doesn’t credit all the effort, craftsmanship and highly skilled workmanship that went into producing such an iconic masterpiece. The BeoSound 2300 was one of the first products I ever bought along with an Avant 32RF tv. I actually bought my Mum an Avant too because she fell in love with mine! Then of course there’s the BeoLink 7000, which for me, holds a special place in my heart because that is the first ever product I saw as a schoolboy walking past a B&O dealership. It was being demonstrated to a customer and I noticed it moving upwards when placed on a flat service as I peered through the window. I was instantly hooked and rushed into the shop to ask if I could also watch the demonstration! They did actually let me and suffice to say my love affair with the company started from that point.

So where does this leave us? I am actually not sure. What do other people think? I have been a harsh critic of B&O at times but only because in the past I also wanted (possibly expected) each new release to be as good or better than the last and to contain all the magic and maybe more but, like I say, I am beginning to realise just what a mammoth task this is so I wait with anticipation and some excitement that I might be totally surprised yet again by the brand I love, but we just don’t know whether that will be the case or not.

If it isn’t, one thing is for sure; nobody could ever take away the many achievements this great company have made. They have already given me so much pleasure over the years and no other brand past or present has ever done that for me, regardless of product. That says a lot I think. I personally think B&O do still have the creativity and they certainly have the know how, nobody would ever question the supreme build quality of their products and attention to detail. OK, they are not all perfectly tested as we can see with The BeoSound 3, Moment and others, which is a shame, but generally the build quality is superb.

I am sure there are some amazing new budding designers out there, probably the younger crowd who are just waiting to have that chance to be heard and given a chance. Hopefully they will find there way to B&O and the company will see their potential and give them the same space and reign they did Lewis and Jensen. It’s a risk, but personally, I think its the risks B&O have taken in the past, which have made them the company they are. They were willing to think outside the box and didn’t live in fear of trying something different.

I’ll conclude by saying that although I haven’t yet bought one, and I might, I do think the Harmony is a fantastic effort as a tv for the modern world given how difficult it must be these days to do something with a square looking piece of glass! The moving speakers are fantastic and the whole tv is in keeping with a typical B&O design and what we all love to see. For me, 2 things stop me going for it, or maybe 3; the size (65” is just too big for my living space), the price (I am more comfortable paying up to £7,000 for the tv, speakers and stand and no more) but mostly, my BV11-46 is perfectly adequate for the time being and I still enjoy it, so need to change just for the sake of it.

Well those are some of my thoughts. It’s good to interact with the forum again and I hope this initiates a little further discussion! Thanks for a good thread title :)

Simon. 

I feel the Beolb 28 is what is carrying us into the future. And honestly I would buy somehing like that once my Beolab 3 Beolab 2 Sub combo with the essence dies.

I am just hopping for more design options … while I liked the concept I dont like the looks. … 

Also, maybe LP Record player with that could be a thing again …

I feel the Beolb 28 is what is carrying us into the future. And honestly I would buy somehing like that once my Beolab 3 Beolab 2 Sub combo with the essence dies.

I am just hopping for more design options … while I liked the concept I dont like the looks. … 

Also, maybe LP Record player with that could be a thing again …

I feel the Beolb 28 is what is carrying us into the future. And honestly I would buy somehing like that once my Beolab 3 Beolab 2 Sub combo with the essence dies.

I am just hopping for more design options … while I liked the concept I dont like the looks. … 

Also, maybe LP Record player with that could be a thing again …

The Beonic Man wrote:

While I often visit the forum and read posts; pretty much my nightly routine, I haven’t replied to one for some time now but this particular thread does encourage me to do so as I share your ‘frustration’ if that is the correct word to use in this context.

Many people will already know from many of my past posts that I have always chosen design over functionally although of course, ideally I am looking for both to be exceptional. Like you, and probably many others I love the glass, the use of metals and shapes, the moving parts, the ‘magic’ as we often refer to it and I too miss the iconic designers of the past and what they brought to the table.

I suppose now though I find myself thinking how hard it must be for B&O and the current design team to keep producing outstanding award winning designs as many of us undoubtedly wish them too. With technology changing as much as it has and continues to in this century, are we simply expecting too much? I am not for one minute suggesting there isn’t something else to create or a different design path to explore; rather perhaps how increasingly difficult the challenge must be.

They have, without as shadow of a doubt created some unbelievable products. Personally, I am a huge fan of the BeoCentre 2 although I never actually bought one! But now I might like to. Those wings are just a wonderful design statement as is the beautiful metal surface with that elegant touch sensitive control. I was a huge fan of the BeoVision 5 and ended up buying a BeoVision 9 and then the BeoVision 11-46, which I still use today.

One of my favourite products from B&O (there are many) was the little BeoSound 3, which I loved and used more than any other product probably, literally every day for hours on end. Sadly the design flaw in the top part of the unit let it down and that is the only reason it wasn’t a keeper otherwise I would still be using it today. The BeoSound 9000 of course like many others, I owned and loved; an outstanding product in every way a product can be. In fact it was more than a product, the word ‘product’ doesn’t credit all the effort, craftsmanship and highly skilled workmanship that went into producing such an iconic masterpiece. The BeoSound 2300 was one of the first products I ever bought along with an Avant 32RF tv. I actually bought my Mum an Avant too because she fell in love with mine! Then of course there’s the BeoLink 7000, which for me, holds a special place in my heart because that is the first ever product I saw as a schoolboy walking past a B&O dealership. It was being demonstrated to a customer and I noticed it moving upwards when placed on a flat service as I peered through the window. I was instantly hooked and rushed into the shop to ask if I could also watch the demonstration! They did actually let me and suffice to say my love affair with the company started from that point.

So where does this leave us? I am actually not sure. What do other people think? I have been a harsh critic of B&O at times but only because in the past I also wanted (possibly expected) each new release to be as good or better than the last and to contain all the magic and maybe more but, like I say, I am beginning to realise just what a mammoth task this is so I wait with anticipation and some excitement that I might be totally surprised yet again by the brand I love, but we just don’t know whether that will be the case or not.

If it isn’t, one thing is for sure; nobody could ever take away the many achievements this great company have made. They have already given me so much pleasure over the years and no other brand past or present has ever done that for me, regardless of product. That says a lot I think. I personally think B&O do still have the creativity and they certainly have the know how, nobody would ever question the supreme build quality of their products and attention to detail. OK, they are not all perfectly tested as we can see with The BeoSound 3, Moment and others, which is a shame, but generally the build quality is superb.

I am sure there are some amazing new budding designers out there, probably the younger crowd who are just waiting to have that chance to be heard and given a chance. Hopefully they will find there way to B&O and the company will see their potential and give them the same space and reign they did Lewis and Jensen. It’s a risk, but personally, I think its the risks B&O have taken in the past, which have made them the company they are. They were willing to think outside the box and didn’t live in fear of trying something different.

I’ll conclude by saying that although I haven’t yet bought one, and I might, I do think the Harmony is a fantastic effort as a tv for the modern world given how difficult it must be these days to do something with a square looking piece of glass! The moving speakers are fantastic and the whole tv is in keeping with a typical B&O design and what we all love to see. For me, 2 things stop me going for it, or maybe 3; the size (65” is just too big for my living space), the price (I am more comfortable paying up to £7,000 for the tv, speakers and stand and no more) but mostly, my BV11-46 is perfectly adequate for the time being and I still enjoy it, so need to change just for the sake of it.

Well those are some of my thoughts. It’s good to interact with the forum again and I hope this initiates a little further discussion! Thanks for a good thread title :)

Simon.

BV11-46, BV8-32, V1-32, BS2, P6, A1, H95, E8, BR1, Beo4, Essence

This lack of something physical, something to touch and to see is exactly why Bang&Olufsen is now showcasing its latest Beolab 28 (you even don’t need a Core as every streaming solution is integrated to the speaker) with good old Beogram 4002! Look at music stores, they are full of vinyls in 2021!

After the Moment B&O has shown they are completely incapable of competing as they just aren't good at software.  We don't need music systems from them anymore, you can do the same thing with other cheaper and better solutions from other manufacturers that you can hook your B&O speakers up to.

On the other side the Halo COULD have been that system but they screwed that one up too sadly.

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

We don't need music systems from them anymore

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

they just aren't good at software

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

cheaper and better solutions from other manufacturers

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

On the other side the Halo COULD have been that system but they screwed that one up too sadly.

So tell, how many time did you really spent with and/or used a Moment or Halo? or were this just impressions at a dealers?