Mikipidia wrote:

wouldn't you think if they made a V2 that they would work around that? 

Sure, but not sure hat is what will happen - at least that is not what I have heard.

it would also actually be a new model - not a version 2.

We will see, when it is announced officially.

MM

Aussie Michael wrote:

Will the c9 fit on the eclipse sound centre it does it also require a special version ?

Well, there's an irony for me as I distinctly remember a couple of Eclipse customers being sold their TVs on the basis that they were modular and would be easily upgradable to a future panel update in future.

One of two things are going to happen here. Any Eclipse v2 will have a new panel which does allow Eclipse v1 users to purchase the panel component and drop it in their existing setup (won't be cheap though and, really, is the difference between a C7 and C9 worth the expense?) OR it will be very different and not interchangeable with the v1 design. Knowing B&O, probably the latter.

It probably would be cheaper/easier to swap the Eclipse v1 for a v2. There will be quite a few potential customers for a pre-loved discounted Eclipse v1.

My retailer

Great: can we expect with a 8k C10 panel next year?

Maybe waiting for an 8 k c10 next year?

Reasons for developing a V2?

Customers fall into roughly (but not exhaustively) 3 Customer Groups:-

1. Those that can afford a large screen BV, prepared to pay for it and update immediately for bigger, better, later etc...

2. Those that can afford a large screen BV, but look at it as a sunk cost, depreciating product for a relatively long period of time.

3. As 2 above have not purchased because they don't like the current design/spec.

4. Those that never want to or cant own a new BV for specific reasons.

So simplistically and business-like:-

Group 1:  I would say is tiny because of the financial implications and probably does not justify the development cost for B&O.

Group 2 are bread and butter customers but won't buy again for some time - mainly driven by the high financial cost of an upgrade in short time spans and prefer to wait several generations to get value out of their existing model.

Group 3 are potentially a large group of new customers who could buy-in but either don't like the current design or the price/spec. This is the Group B&O has to target for growth.

Group 4 can never by definition be a primary purchase customer.

Interchangeable panels will do nothing for any of these 4 groups and even less for B&O. The only realistic approach is to target groups 1 and 3 with new complete models to drive Sales.

My guess is that B&O will adopt the BeoPlay model. i.e. essentially the same repeated offerings, slight spec upgrade as raw products roll-out new specs and ultimately re-package all new TVs into a new form-factor. Harmony = Eclipse + revised layout.

A 65 inches 8k with the look of Beovision 14 would be my nicest dream

JFJBrussels wrote:

A 65 inches 8k with the look of Beovision 14 would be my nicest dream

Just an OLED in an BeoVision 10/11/14 look would be just perfect for me!

It would be nice to have 1 design that just keeps getting updated with the latest tech every 2 of 3 years or so... 

Karel.

kuyttendaele wrote:

Just an OLED in an BeoVision 10/11/14 look would be just perfect for me!

I agree. Would love a BV14 OLED. Sadly it's not going to happen. We all know B&O cleared out their vision team and the customisation to make a BV14 is immense - ie you can't just 'plonk' a LG panel in to the frame and the frame itself isn't cheap to produce.

Although the Eclipse looks decent, remember it's a very clever design mostly (stand ommitting) made out of plastic.

Also, I don't think updating every 2 to 3 years is that important. Is there really that much difference in panel quality? IMHO panel quality has stablised hugely recently. Even my 'old' BV12-65 still looks amazing. Why on earth would you need a new OLED to replace your exisitng OLED in only 2-3 years?