Eclipse or Harmony?

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Aussie Michael wrote:

Will do. Currently saving the bickies.

Very wise 😕

Beobuddy wrote:
Whether it comes up depends on the chosen audiosetting. You can setup the preferred audio for videosetting for when you start your tv.
You're sure. To my experience it is dependable on the source chosen.

This B&o writes about it:

Audio mode is triggered by AirPlay 2, Chromecast, Bluetooth, TuneIn, Deezer, DLNA (Music), Line-In, Music, Optical, Multiroom sources and QPlay.
 
Audio mode is when the screen turns black, stays positioned close to the floor and is partly covered by the speakers.

Airplay to soundcenter and it stays closed, airplay audio and video to panel and it comes up.

Maarten wrote:

Talking about LG‘s webOS version 6 is in the making (for LG‘s 2021 models), I doubt it if it will be released for older models, up to now LG has never done that. So my new Harmony will still be on webOS 5.x in 3 years time whilst LG is on version 8? What does that mean for supporting apps on the ‚old‘ webOS?

This is a problem with any "smart" TV.  I don't know of any TV manufacturer that supports more than a version or two of their underlying OS.  Granted, unlike B&O, most TVs are rather inexpensive so if it bothers you that you're no longer getting new apps 3-5 years down the road, you just get a new one... can one say "planned obsolescense"?  For B&O (or really any smart TV that is "out of support"), the solution is an external box - apple TV, Roku, etc. that is cheap-ish and easy to swap out.

I find the talk on upgradability of the Eclipse interesting - how many other TV manufactures out there have their customers discuss upgradability ? I have always purchased a TV, and then a new TV when it was time for a change. I have never considered a change of the "tube" or LCD panel on any TV I have owned.

When I purchased my Eclipse 2, I'll admit I found it to be a lot of money, but nothing else in the market gave me this brilliant package of a TV. Fantastic picture, sound and sound system, and I trust it will serve me well for many years - until it's time to get a new TV. Should I years from now be able to swap just the panel and then be just as happy as if I got a new TV - that would be an added bonus not offered by any other manufacturere for now.

My point - get your TV based on current specs, and your love of it  🙂

Still haven’t pulled the trigger for the harmony and thinking through a few things.

Has anyone wall-mounted it and how does it look? It feels a bit like a monster in the wall rather than a sleek slim frame?

Does the speaker act as 3.0 (center / left / right) or as stereo speaker? If i were to add speakers to have surround, would it be sufficient to add rear speaker and a sub? or better both front and rear as well as sub?

I'd say this - if you wall mounted the Harmony and had no line of sight (for example when you walked into the room) down the back side of the Harmony, then wall mounting is probably ok.

In my scenario, it doesn't work at all. When I walk in to my lounge, I wouldn't be facing the Harmony head on, but looking down its long edge i.e looking down the huge gap to the wall. Unacceptable to me.

There's no getting away from it - the Harmony is a beast

 

In my opinion the Harmony looks better hanging on the wall. You’ll get more floorspace as a benefit. 
Cables will be a bit more difficult with the wall option. They need to come out of the wall when you want the most clean solution.

The center has three channels indeed. 3.0. You can add separate surround speakers.  

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

steve1977 wrote:
Still haven’t pulled the trigger for the harmony and thinking through a few things.

Has anyone wall-mounted it and how does it look? It feels a bit like a monster in the wall rather than a sleek slim frame?

Does the speaker act as 3.0 (center / left / right) or as stereo speaker? If i were to add speakers to have surround, would it be sufficient to add rear speaker and a sub? or better both front and rear as well as sub?

Of cource Sandyb is right, it depends on how it is placed in the room and where you are placed or move around.

For wall placement look here:


and here:

link

 

As for using the speakers of the Sound Center...

If you want to use the speakers, when they are horizontal (open), you could choose only to use the outer speakers as R and Left, yes.

In fact in the settings you can do whatever you like - but not everything will make sense!

I guess most people will let the mid-speaker work as well for regular music listening - meaning sort of Speaker 3, since the speakers are relatively close to each other and the mid-speaker unit is quite powerfull.
Although, in most cases they probably would prefer to have the speakers vertical/closed (audio mode), which is default.

If you want to set up a 5.1/5.0 setup, you can do well with setting the outer speakers as L and R (the mid as Center, of course) and add two speakers as surround speakers L/R.....maybe a sub won’t be needed.
Lot of possibilities for tweaking in the sound settings there.

This will give you a slick, clean looking setup, that in many cases will be sufficient.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Thanks for your responses. You’re giving me comfort that this is actually an excellent product and well thought through solution.

I may need to wait a bit to get the version with webos 5.x as i doubt the current one will see an option.

If i understand, i can select how i’d like the speakers to play.

Open: 3.0 seems most logical. or adding a bl18 or bl50 as rear for 5.0 or with bl19 as 5.1

Close: could even play music as 2.0 or 3.0 or 5.0 or 5.1. all options here as well :)
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