Hi John,

            although I agree with your sentiments (assuming the post concerned is NOT intended as a joke) I would urge you to please not use profanities however well disguised they are. This is not really in the spirit of an otherwise very friendly forum and I'm hopeful that the other Beoworld member concerned will affirm that the post was indeed a tongue in cheek remark. Politics is a highly charged subject which can inadvertently cause offence where none was intended.🙂

 

Chris.

Appreciate your reply, we are all brother and sister enthusiasts here. No, no joke. I really believe we all have a responsibility to care for our climate/environment and I'm all for responsible production methods and such but we must live. And live in an climate/environment that has been changing for many thousands of years and will continue to change. Creating this doomsday hystaria I do not think is productive. B&O uses some vary toxic production methods and or componentry to deliver the products they do to us, they also incorperated some reduced impact production methods in their manufacturing and this is good. But I'm no going to do without my B&O. All I'm saying is beware the hysterical religion surrounding this topic, you really think there are not forces working who reduce peoples liberties, tax them beyound belief and  stand to capitalize a great deal on this? Hey, to each his own but let's be real.

luv ya man,

Dave

My take on this touchy subject is that EVERYONE is responsible for trying to reduce wastage in any form they can and climate change cannot be blamed solely on government policy altough governments could so easily make wholesale changes at a far faster pace to combat this. As you say Dave - each to their own and as a democratic minded individual I would defend your right to your opinion.

@John - you have a PM/conversation.

Chris.

beodude wrote:

Lol you sure you never heard of it??

It's on front page of bbc world news! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7969515.stm

It's apparently taking place in 88 countries at 20:30 in each country's own time zone

Here is THE BBC News Front Page. Where is your "earth hour" then

Appreciate the freedom of speech, I really mean not harm and I AGAIN teach my children to be RESPONABLE. And your point is well taken about the government, here in the US the Gov. wants to tell everyone else what to do but they themselve had an opportunity to mandate all government vehicles use LP gas and they did NOT. Keeping things focused and not so touchy, I love reading about companies that use enviromentally sound techniques for production, I think B&O had an article not to long ago about the aluminum processes they use for just about every product made..... I'm all for it.

Dave

I'm not taking any sides here, but I didn't turn off my lights. 

More important things to do in this world than feeling good turning the lights off for an hour. 

If Australia has been warm, then Finland has been pretty damn cold I'll tell you. 

Just as an example, summer tires are allowed from 1st of march. Must be worn before april 1st according to Finnish law. (If the weather permits)

Now with -15 degrees celsius during nights and 3-5cm of new snow during days I can't see summer tires on my car anytime soon.

I realise that everyone will have a different take on this but I have just looked on the BBC (Biased Broadcasting Corporation) web site at an Antipodean group that switched off their lights  - but lit candles instead!!???  What benefit does that have for the environment?  THe energy in distributing and making candles and matches will be greater than the distribution of power!

Pet Hates - Carbon Footprint - is someone referring to carbon dioxide or is this indeed an archaelogocial relic to match a dinosaur footprint. 

Forgive me also for thinking that the earth has warmed and cooled over the past millenia - oh and will do so again particluraly when the sun runs out of nuclear fuel (ie hydrogen)! 

The REAL issue is actually over population - mankind would not be endangered if the population were 1% of the present level and THEN the carbon dioxide emissions would be reduced., resources last much longer and deforestation not be so rampant. 

Back to B&O - this thread will start to be a re-run of the debate over standby!

Brian

 

Flat earthers and pseudo-scientists aside, I must apologise for the 'directness' of my language. On a family forum such as this there is no place for name calling, and I'm sure that Dave is of good character and strong moral fibre. We can agree to differ on the issue of climate change I'm sure. For any offence caused, I offer my humblest apologies.

I'm off to box up my Beosystem 6000 now and try to come to terms with the massive carbon footprint I shall no doubt create when we move down to Sheffield on Thursday. Hopefully mother Earth will find it in her heart to forgive me in due course.

Good night and god bless.

John

preface: no joking here.

apparently, i am ahead of the curve -though i have never heard of "earth hour."

i hate manmade light -prefer natural.

i actually never have lights on much past 8:00pm ...usually in bed (of course, not if we are entertaining)

the only exception is a small night light in the kitchen... that i will turn off tonight!

I will watch out for a Carbon footprint - but as yet have never actually seen one (see pet hates on the earlier message!).  Surely you will have to walk to leave a footprint Carbon or anyother!  Perhaps you mean that you will leave a caron dioxide and/or monoxide trail.

Brian